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Old 06-30-2008, 12:53 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Re: More Skeletons in the Closet for "Friendly" Toyota

after reading this http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=562 I wonder how Toyota owners sleep at night



oh, wait! they don't know about this


what is even more sad, thanks to Toyota, now the domestics will go copying their practices .. it worked for Toyota!!
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:37 PM   #107 (permalink)
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YEP.

That's a good looking family - in all the pictures - in all the ways possible.

You hit it on the head, Mr. Butz.

Unchecked, this will spread.

No wonder vehicle sales continue to suffer and decline in Japan - Toyota's becoming a Henry Ford in REVERSE on 'usable' wages.
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Volt ………………….. 37
Prius ………………… 228
30 MPG car ………… 380
20 MPG car ………… 570


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Old 06-30-2008, 04:17 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Toyota’s Links to Dictators

Toyota Tsusho, a large holding company which is part of the Toyota Group is involved in several joint ventures with the Burmese military, including being a venture partner with the military and the Suzuki Motor Corporation in manufacturing and selling vehicles which may be used to repress the Burmese people. Toyota Tsusho and Suzuki are working in partnership with the Myanmar Auto and Diesel Engine Industries (MADI), which is a military-run enterprise. In addition, Myanmar Toyota Tsusho—a subsidiary of Toyota Tsusho—operates a commodity, material and auto parts business in Burma, which is impossible to do without military involvement. Nor, with 90 employees, is Myanmar Toyota Tsusho an insignificant company. Another subsidiary of Toyota Tsusho, the Tomen Company, also operates in Burma. All of Toyota Tsusho’s ventures in Burma are generating revenues for the military dictators, which are used to repress and torture the Burmese people.

Especially now, with the military Junta pursuing a ridiculous constitutional referendum charade to cement its power—while an estimated 135,000 people are dead or missing following the devastating May 3 cyclone, with another 1.4 million people homeless, without food and at risk of cholera, typhoid and dysentery—we must ask why does Toyota insist on supporting the Burmese dictators?

Toyota Motors' link to Toyota Tsusho is clear. Not only is Toyota Tsusho part of the Toyota Group, but Toyota Motors owns 21.57 percent of Toyota Tsusho, while Toyota Industries owns another 11.12 percent, bringing Toyota's combined ownership to one-third. There is also a revolving door policy, as Toyota Motors and Toyota Tsusho share high level management and Board members. Moreover, sales to the Toyota Motor group accounted for over 16 percent of Toyota Tsusho's total business in 2006.

Today, 50 million Burmese people are stripped of their human rights and are the target of extreme and cruel abuse by the military dictators.
In Burma, the highest paid private sector factory workers earn just 11 to 12 cents an hour.
-11 to 12 cents an hour
-88 to 96 cents a day
-$5.31 a week
-$23.00 a month
-$276 a year

Outside the factory sector, urban workers are earning five to nine cent-an-hour wages. Public school teachers are paid two cents an hour.
The military government has declared the Federation of Trade Unions in Burma a "terrorist group." Six activists attending a labor rights workshop in Rangoon on May 1, 2007, have been sentenced to between 20 and 28 years in prison.
Forced labor, including the exploitation of children, continues in Burma, as do extrajudicial killings, disappearances, rape and torture.
More than 30 people were shot dead and 3000-plus arrested during the September 2007 pro-democracy protests.
Nobel Peace Prize winner and National League for Democracy General Secretary Aung San Suu Kyi remains under house arrest.

Its sad to see what goes around my families house over there. too sad to even describe this. having been to the affected area before the cyclone occured, its an interesting place. now wondering if the people that I've met survived, only god knows....
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after reading this http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=562 I wonder how Toyota owners sleep at night



oh, wait! they don't know about this


what is even more sad, thanks to Toyota, now the domestics will go copying their practices .. it worked for Toyota!!
Tasteless post!

How do people sleep at night knowing they used USPS to ship mom a package when that postal worker killed 5 fellow employees with a handgun. <insert family members of those killed>

I can go on and on, but it's making me sick.

To the people who researched and wrote that amazing defamation article on Toyota: It'd be AWESOME to use your investigatory skills to hunt down REAL terrorists. I mean, I don't know, say Osama Bin Laden. I wonder id they can link him to Toyota's evil empire :::plays Darth Vader music:::
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after reading this http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=562 I wonder how Toyota owners sleep at night



oh, wait! they don't know about this


what is even more sad, thanks to Toyota, now the domestics will go copying their practices .. it worked for Toyota!!
Actually, they do know.http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-ma...ker-abuse.html

And some of them tap dance very nicely around this issue.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:11 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Tasteless post!
NOPE.
MR. Butz's post is astute - it's yours - all of them here that are tasteless.

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How do people sleep at night knowing they used USPS to ship mom a package when that postal worker killed 5 fellow employees with a handgun. <insert family members of those killed>
Totally different situation - not at all applicable.

Toyota has methodically orchestrated this - since 1992.

USPS in contrast, did not organize and set up the shooter, nor take advantage of, nor mistreat thousands of women workers without a pot to piss in.


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I can go on and on, but it's making me sick
Good.
Now make yourself and us better off - just leave the thread.

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To the people who researched and wrote that amazing defamation article on Toyota: It'd be AWESOME to use your investigatory skills to hunt down REAL terrorists. I mean, I don't know, say Osama Bin Laden. I wonder id they can link him to Toyota's evil empire :::plays Darth Vader music:::
See, I'm going to thank you for this part of your post - your post's content are perfectly illustrating just how depraved and unlikeable the real 'lady' is under the Kimono.

Keep going, I like watching you dig Toyota further into hole on this one.

Btw, you ever correspond with Charlene Blake ?
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In regards to the VOLT

With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight:
Vehicle ……………… Gallons per year
Volt ………………….. 37
Prius ………………… 228
30 MPG car ………… 380
20 MPG car ………… 570


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Old 07-09-2008, 06:21 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Actually, they do know.http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-ma...ker-abuse.html

And some of them tap dance very nicely around this issue.
As bad as that is ML, most of the world is looking the other way as well - one way or another.

It's not just about money and business relationships.

Today, it's especially hard to find an American whose willing to admit they've been wrong and they've been fooled really big, for a really long time - at great cost to others.
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In regards to the VOLT

With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight:
Vehicle ……………… Gallons per year
Volt ………………….. 37
Prius ………………… 228
30 MPG car ………… 380
20 MPG car ………… 570


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Old 07-09-2008, 10:26 PM   #113 (permalink)
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NOPE.
MR. Butz's post is astute - it's yours - all of them here that are tasteless.

Totally different situation - not at all applicable.

Toyota has methodically orchestrated this - since 1992.

USPS in contrast, did not organize and set up the shooter, nor take advantage of, nor mistreat thousands of women workers without a pot to piss in.


Good.
Now make yourself and us better off - just leave the thread.

See, I'm going to thank you for this part of your post - your post's content are perfectly illustrating just how depraved and unlikeable the real 'lady' is under the Kimono.

Keep going, I like watching you dig Toyota further into hole on this one.
Yeah, I am so honored to have such a fan. I called that post tastelss because I feel it is pure exploitation of a family for the sole reason of bashing a manufacturer that the poster doesn't like. That's my opinion and you won't change that.

Don't be a tool, I personally have nothing to do with Toyota. I am not digging Toyota into a hole.

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Btw, you ever correspond with Charlene Blake ?
Why.....is that your mom?

lol I don't know who that is.
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More Truth about Toyota. See my article in the New Journal of Sociology at www.newyorksociology.org Click on 2008 to see the list of articles, and you will see Toyota’s Willing Stooges: The Trend of Narcissism in US Society. It talks about Toyota's fans, and its connections to labor abuses and even whaling.
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More Truth about Toyota. See my article in the New Journal of Sociology at www.newyorksociology.org Click on 2008 to see the list of articles, and you will see Toyota’s Willing Stooges: The Trend of Narcissism in US Society. It talks about Toyota's fans, and its connections to labor abuses and even whaling.
Toyota’s Willing Stooges: The Trend Of Narcissism In Us Society For every "truth", there is a falacy. I tore appart that article without fact checking everything....only the stuff I knew. I find the whole whaling thing absurd. I won't even touch that one.

Toyota is not perfect, but for those that really hate Toyota, a better acrticle of proof should be used.
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