More Skeletons in the Closet for "Friendly" Toyota

[Htay7500]

Originally Posted by ;1429552

"As a start, Toyota should cut its ties to the Burmese dictators and end the exploitation of foreign guest workers trafficked to Japan."


* Ties to Burmese dictators: Toyota, through the Toyota Tsusho Corporation, which is part of the Toyota Group of Companies, is involved in several joint business ventures with the ruthless military regime in Burma. The dictators use these revenues to repress and torture the people of Burma.

they (government of burma and tshusho) can shove it up their ass if they continue to work with each other as they continue to torture the burmese people. and I'm offended by this.

[Beau]

: O
Doesn't anyone else find this to be rediculous? Wow, this better be smeared all over the place, otherwise I'm done with this liberal left media, they like everything but morals, justice, and the United States


"I just sent it to MSNBC. " - Nice job!
We should be sending it everywhere guys. Lets keep that trend going.

[Saturn69]

Originally Posted by tholland

Nice!

I just don't get how a company with these practices can be the world's most reputable company.

And CNN and FoxNews.

[eaton53]

IMO, any company with third world manufacturing should be automatically disqualified from a "most reputable" list.
They're almost certainly a party to human rights abuses or at least turning a blind eye to it.
I'm sure that will still leave plenty of eligible companies.

[Saturn69]

Originally Posted by tholland

Nice!

I just don't get how a company with these practices can be the world's most reputable company.

Because a great many people could care less about the people that make the products we use. It's too Leftist to care if that shoe maker in Vietnam has had a day off, just don't make me pay a fair price for the shoe, that's Capitalism. It's all touchy-feely to wonder if the Burmese girl who sewed your shirt together is being beaten for not working fast enough, just keep 'em coming.

[Z16monte]

Originally Posted by joemac

What's to bash? At a unionized work place such atrocities would never happen. In the US we work and have standard 40 hour work weeks, employee rights, and workplace safety standards, of which unions demanded and brought into the work place. Many here are likely unaware of the thousands of people who lost their lives in this country in the pre unionization era where you had scenarios as documented in the article right here in the US.

My question is that the going theme here is that in a down market the unionized employees should give away everything, all their pay, all their benefits to "help" the company. Well what happens when times are good is the favor returned? Toyota had a annual profit of what $13 billion in 2007? Where's the return favor? Working someone to death, literally.

The incessant UAW bashing here was my point.
Ed

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by joemac

What's to bash? At a unionized work place such atrocities would never happen. In the US we work and have standard 40 hour work weeks, employee rights, and workplace safety standards, of which unions demanded and brought into the work place. Many here are likely unaware of the thousands of people who lost their lives in this country in the pre unionization era where you had scenarios as documented in the article right here in the US.

And so the UAW has not outlived it's usefulness, since it has achieved it's goals. Labour laws now do their job.

[ANT]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

I've never seen Motor trend as Toyota loving. they like toyota when they're good, but they don't gush over them. I've always seen Motor Trend as having quite a GM slant to them as times and obviously just gushing over BMW as much as possible.

Of all the Rags, Motor trend i feel does have the best view of GM, However, While they will have this GM slant You speak of from time to time, there are occasions(most of the time actually) where I am left scratching my head about what they nit pick over GM's cars compared to say an Asian/German brand. They will be the first to exalt Gm for a job well done and gush all over them, but for minor things MT will tear them apart, BAD. I think it depends on the issue who wrote what article. Some writers have only good things to say about the gerneral while others nothing good to say. But hey MT is no where near the level if BS that C&D is so thats why i steal it from work. haha

[Htay7500]

more: http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id...se%20Dictators

[Nasty_SS]

Everyone Here In The Good Ole Usa Who Buys A Toyota Should Work Overtime Voluntary And Be Unpaid Too....see How They Like It ....and Just Maybe Their Companies Will Turn A Strong Profit Too. Non Union Is Still Slave Labor ...no Matter What Certain Jack Offs Have To Say About It....

[97ultra]

Originally Posted by osv_alero

I think 90% of us here could have guessed toyota ran their business this way.

And for all those that will say otherwise; This report is not by a group that is anti foreign or anti-Japanese cars, they just want to stop bad employment practices around the globe.

90% of the people here are more then likely cheering Toyota and wished GM was doing the same thing here in the states. After all if those workers don't like it then should do something else... Down with workers rights and let's cheer Toyota for finding ways to make more profits....

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by tholland

Nice!

I just don't get how a company with these practices can be the world's most reputable company.

The answer - setting aside all moral considerations .......an absolutely first class job of public relations and market perception 'management'.

The 'ugly', bad side news gets suppressed and disappears so what remains - the 'good' , artificially then 'appears' better than it really is.

Then that gets spun beyond recognition.

There is at this point, about a 90% error factor behind common interpretations of what Toyota was and really is and most importantly WHY they have been successful.

They quite possibly and I'm not joking when I say this, may have the most successful Propaganda machine the World has ever known.

Not only do they have a dark side, within that is a subgroup that's dark and dirty - real dirty at that.

All the people that have helped further along this company and the 7 layers of spin and lies surrounding it can feel real proud of themselves today - especially most of the press.

There are many more including at least 5 tenured faculty members at MIT, at least two of whom should be academically censored and disbarred.

Those of them that still have a conscience and are troubled by this are going to learn a real unpleasant truth about life; the stain of blood money never washes off.

Watch how this and the history of these types of practices continues to not be reported - along with the rest .

An established investigative reporter or writer could write a book on this - they would be set for life if they did so.

[FierySolstice]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

I've never seen Motor trend as Toyota loving. they like toyota when they're good, but they don't gush over them. I've always seen Motor Trend as having quite a GM slant to them as times and obviously just gushing over BMW as much as possible.

I agree, its Car & Driver that likes the imports from Japan!

[Rocket 88]

Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy

Not to justify or condone this kind of corporate attitude in any way, but it's funny how Toyota will only do this where they can get away with it.

A little off topic, but several years ago while in Spain I was shocked that McDonalds was serving food in the same styrafoam containers that they were forced to get rid of in the United States.

Toyota stinks and I tell everyone I can. Unfortunately there are a lot of really scummy corporations in the world.

[Smoke]

I e-mailed this to my local stations and you guys should do the same. I am tired of Toyota never getting bashed while it is a daily occurence for the Detroit 3.