Ford's 2015 F-150 Tows 12,200 lbs; MPG Jumps By Up to 20 Percent Left Lane News
September 29, 2014
By: Justin King
Ford has confirmed preliminary tow ratings for its forthcoming 2015 F-150 pickup lineup.
The all-new model can tow up to 1,110 more pounds and haul up to 530 more pounds than its predecessor, thanks in part to an aluminum body and other weight-saving measures that shave up to 700 pounds from the truck's heft.
Of the four available engines, the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 provides the highest tow rating of 12,200 lbs and the second-best payload rating of 3,180 lbs. The smaller 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 steps down to 8,500 lbs behind the truck and 2,250 lbs stacked on the bed.
Yawn. Wake me when they announce a bike rack and graphics as a new concept vehicle. Maybe I missed it but they said all 2015 Chrysler, GM and Ford trucks were adopting the SAE J2807 standard. Does this apply here?
I hear the 2015 Total Recall Motors trucks will revert back to the 1969 coil sprung truck - that was perhaps the last version of any GM truck that was competently engineered and competitive.
my thought is FORD is almost "priming the pump" for a NEW RANGER and if it was built "like" the F150 but made lighter in the frame so to be lighter VS high payload/tow capacity
and say "TOPS out" with the EB 2.7L I could see some "awesome" EPA Fuel economy numbers
Meh, I'm still not on the whole Ecoboost bandwagon yet. Friends Ecoboost Flex is sitting at the dealer waiting on a new engine at 48 miles. Sad part? There are zero available for warranty proceedings.
I agree about eb. Not sold on it. Ill believe the fuel economy gains when the real-world reviews come out. Same thing for weight...wasn't mustang supposed to be lighter? And I've never been an F-150 fan but I respect the truck. This new one however is butt ugly.
This headline implies the EPA numbers were in, which they are not.
Looks like they really want to sell you that 165cube V6. I wonder if that's where they are getting the "20% better" quote. 20% better than the last ecoboost? I get the feeling the turbo treatment is kind of optimized on that one.
Even with the 165 you surely have to get the "HFE" option to get to the 20%
As usual, Ford's up to their a** in hanky panky with this.
For starters - it is quite possibly illegal along several lines.
Vehicles used for this specific purpose have to have all their paperwork completed and in good order.
That includes their M label, separately their required environmental impact information, and of course, their mpgs.
Even if they have found a legal loophole / work a round, - which would to the best of my knowledge still preclude using these vehicles in generating an order / sale, the potential for abuse is virtually unlimited.
One tune for these demonstrators and another for what actually gets shipped.
Because of this potential - and notice they are also saying the finalization has not occurred yet, plus the lack of hard PT info - the ordering guide and these demos represent potentially a complete waste of time.
Btw, that November finalization date shows the amount of snag and drag that the program has netted so far.
so we have an all new aluminum truck that only weighs 250 lbs less than the Silverado. the truck before weighed 750 lbs more. just wondering how much it cost ford to build trucks with 750lbs more of steel in them all those years? seems like aluminum doors and a few suspension parts would get the Silverado down another 250lbs and make GM more money per unit than fords all aluminum body truck.
5% to 20% better EPA, but will they be able to get that in the real world? In the end these are still heavy bricks on wheels and with V6 ecoboosts, will an owner really be able to get that EPA number.
I think its safe to say the 20% will be the 2.7L, that will be 20% over the 5.0l that its considered a side option to. Question is will it be 20% city, highway or combined rating. Also remember this is the engine that will be compared to the 5.3L, the 3.5L EcoBoost is much more powerful than the 5.3L already and assuming it goes up when announced for 15, it should be compared to the 6.2L or the Hemi.
The current Ecoboost averages about 13.5-14.5 mpg for most users in the real world. So what is a 10% gain over 14mpg anyways, 15.4mpg?
In the real world the Ecoboost will not surpass the Twins in mpg for the average driver. But more importantly, option for option, the Aluminum Ford could easily come in costing $10k+ more than the Twins making the mpg equivalency pretty irrelevent.
My inside people are telling me Ford is pushing the 2.7EB to get 27 MPG Hwy. That would be about 20% better than the current 3.5EB .
This is what is referred to as market disruption!
Or maybe they are comparing the top engine from the 2014 F150 to the top engine in the 2015 F150. So that would be the 6.2 in the 2014 that gets 15 combined vs the 3.5 EB in the 2015. The 2014 EB gets 18 combined. That equals 20%.
So, without knowing what 5% and 20% means, it's a guess still and really means nothing without context.
What is the reason Ford delaying the release of the mileage? They must be having trouble and they had to fine tuning the engine for better mileage. I've also wondered why they delayed the sale to Dec. My dealer told me that they would have one for me to look at and sell me by September. It's the 29th, so I think it's safe to say they are delaying the sale. Aluminum issues?
Or maybe they are comparing the top engine from the 2014 F150 to the top engine in the 2015 F150. So that would be the 6.2 in the 2014 that gets 15 combined vs the 3.5 EB in the 2015. The 2014 EB gets 18 combined. That equals 20%.
So, without knowing what 5% and 20% means, it's a guess still and really means nothing without context.
What is the reason Ford delaying the release of the mileage? They must be having trouble and they had to fine tuning the engine for better mileage. I've also wondered why they delayed the sale to Dec. My dealer told me that they would have one for me to look at and sell me by September. It's the 29th, so I think it's safe to say they are delaying the sale. Aluminum issues?
Yes I keep forgetting about the big mutha Hurricane. That makes a lot of sense.
Ford is currently STILL making '14s at the KC plant. The Dearborn plant is supposed to start production sometime this month, but we won't actually see anything at dealers till deep into the Holiday season.
When they reported the famous 'delay' in February '13, the initial launch of factory switchover was supposed to happen end of May, but got shifted to August.
Wouldn't be such a biggie except that it takes far longer to change dies from steel to alum that just old to new steel dies. Hence the 'three month delay' actually was more like half a year.
GM and Ford are in cohoots!!! They are working on 9-10 spd's for the trucks in a joint venture. They will not be pushing the envelope until they have to "CAFE". This is all PR malarkey. They will always be comparable. There has not been a huge leap in this market for some time. I truly believe that the next gen Silverado and the upcoming F-150 will be close as always where it will come down to personal preference. By working together on transmissions for these hogs they have to know the parameters meaning weight of vehicle, amount of max torque, peak hp. This is all showboating to make it seem like there is a huge battle. However GM/Ford are going to knock RAM down they both have the cash cows they want, they just need to keep what they have. So mission critical is to make Ram so obsolete in the next two to three years that F-150 will remain the top dog and GM will sit just below. Which is fine because GM has more brands and cash to be made elsewhere where Ford is limited (pun intended). This way the true Domestics create a win-win scenario.
The Al 2015 F150 program, from a month or so back, and then going forward to who knows how long ...... is going to end up one of the best things that ever happened to Silverado / Sierra and Ram.
Well, for sure Ram - you never know, GM might pull a RenCen move and remove all incentives - you know how they roll - always accidentally seem to find away to pace off of Ford these days......
This is going to be the most watched introduction in modern auto history. It is a huge gamble for Ford. It certainly could play out like you say....But it could turn out brilliant. Most likely somewhere in between. With market share staying roughly like it is now......
I am total serious when I say - I hope it works, and works at least well enough.
And for damn sure, with no 'unique' problems or anything epic.
There is more than enough to go 'round, and all Three need them . Two, likely more than ever going forward although the third one is over dependent anyway -
Would love to see the Tundra ( and Tacoma ) reduced to three smokin' holes in the desert ....... in Texas.....
For sheer longevity, i'd have to go with the 5.0 if I were a Ford guy, especially if I towed a trailer consistently. You might lose a little capacity, but you'll gain a much longer running engine over these high strung turbo engines.
Golly, when you put it that way..... PS, Hemi, EB 3.0 sure take on a different hue and color..... jk except with a regard to a Turboe..... gasser...... full size ...... Pick Up.
Do you know why there is a national stock for warranty replacements?
It's because Ford can't make and sell them fast enough. The motor is on backorder because of the demand Ford is getting for them, not because they're "failing constantly".
Do you have any evidence of that? And, even if that is the case, that really doesn't help the customer needing a warranty replacement. "Sorry, we can't help you out with an engine replacement, but step over here and our lovely sales staff will help you step into a brand new EcoBoost, because we sell 'em as fast as we make 'em."
Kudos to Ford! Jump in payload, jump in towing AND remarkably better fuel efficiency than most of the competition. Even though I drive a Silverado I am willing to admit this new F150 raises the bar incomparably. I see no way a sane and rational person, with even a shallow knowledge of the pickup truck market in the U.S., could reasonably conclude that this will not tip over GM's "apple cart" of the "three truck solution"
As always Andretti, your insight is second to none. Why do you drive a Silverado, when you already knew all about the upcoming F150? Especially considering your intimate relationship with Ford engineering...
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