GM Forum / GM News GM Forum / GM News
Go Back   GM Inside News Forum > Press Room > The Competition
Register Home Forum Active Topics Media Gallery Mark Forums Read


       
GM Inside News & GM Forum is the premier GM Forum and GM News Source on the internet. We discuss all GM models on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-17-2008, 12:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
3.9 Liter V6
 
Andonis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Home is where the heart is
Drives: Volvo 480 Turbo
Posts: 892
Ford shortens styling cycle

http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-sho...-underway.html
__________________
Nemo regat vitam meam
Andonis is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-17-2008, 01:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
6.0 Liter LS2 V8
 
1931Chevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,040
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

repost Ford reduces time between styling changes to three years
__________________
Quote:
By Mark Fields
"Perform or the bank will own us"
Buying GM cars since 1931
Hungry ,eat your import
1931Chevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 01:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
3.9 Liter V6
 
osv_alero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dundee, Oregon
Drives: 2006 HHR 2LT
Posts: 829
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

How many times have we heard this only to see no change? Sorry, but Ford has made this type of statement MANY times only to never follow through with it.
__________________
The U.S. trade deficit with China increases by $1 billion a day
The U.S. trade deficit for automobiles alone is $11 billion per month


http://americaneconomicalert.org/


For every one transplant job added in the US, nearly five jobs are eliminated
osv_alero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 02:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
6.0 Liter Vortec V8
 
460ford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: mass.
Drives: 95 Bronco
Posts: 1,830
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by osv_alero View Post
How many times have we heard this only to see no change? Sorry, but Ford has made this type of statement MANY times only to never follow through with it.
Sure about that? How about new Fusion 4 years after it's launch ( Still a very competitive car and has had updates along the way most notably the 2.5 for 09), New Taurus for 2010 two years after the 08 was launched ( Looks nothing like current one either), New F150 for 2009 even though it is still class leading in many ways, Or maybe the fact that Ford has designed 2 Mustangs in the time it has taken GM to finally come out with a Camaro 5 years later? The only vehicles that Ford has let linger without much of anything around are the ones that previous management had already driven into the ground ( Ranger, Panther cars). I would say lately that Ford has been giving us some pretty good updates and re designs in a timely manner.
__________________
OUT OF A JOB YET? KEEP BUYING FOREIGN
460ford is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 08:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 600
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by 460ford View Post
Sure about that? How about new Fusion 4 years after it's launch ( Still a very competitive car and has had updates along the way most notably the 2.5 for 09), New Taurus for 2010 two years after the 08 was launched ( Looks nothing like current one either), New F150 for 2009 even though it is still class leading in many ways, Or maybe the fact that Ford has designed 2 Mustangs in the time it has taken GM to finally come out with a Camaro 5 years later? The only vehicles that Ford has let linger without much of anything around are the ones that previous management had already driven into the ground ( Ranger, Panther cars). I would say lately that Ford has been giving us some pretty good updates and re designs in a timely manner.
Your post is very good. Ford is becoming increasingly competitive and getting its act together.
ericmvest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 08:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
7.0 Liter LS7 V8
 
likearock00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NC
Drives: 2006 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab Z-71
Posts: 7,532
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

This is great news, but we'll see how dramatic the changes are. We've all seen "total revisions" that have made the vehicle look identical to the previous version.
__________________
"Moral courage is the most valuable and usually the most absent characteristic in men." -Patton
likearock00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 08:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
6.0 Liter Vortec V8
 
wescoent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,987
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by likearock00 View Post
This is great news, but we'll see how dramatic the changes are. We've all seen "total revisions" that have made the vehicle look identical to the previous version.
Such as the 2003 "redesigns" for the Navigator, Town Car, and LS.

Those days are over.
wescoent is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 09:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
5.3 Liter LS4 V8
 
camaro_freak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,486
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by likearock00 View Post
This is great news, but we'll see how dramatic the changes are. We've all seen "total revisions" that have made the vehicle look identical to the previous version.

yeah they change the front and rear bumpers, slap on some new wheels and then call the car ALL NEW

I love that about auto manufacturers. Actually only 10% is new and if you were smart you'd go get the year old model still sitting on the lot from the previous season.
__________________
John Crichton: It's beer o'clock. Where's my riot?

camaro_freak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 10:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar
 
johnstarnes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 2,386
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

I'll be curious if this speeds up the unveiling of that new global look they are supposed to be developing that is neither "kinetic design" or the American three bar grille look. I'm guessing that sneak peek at the next Taurus is an indication about this new global look.
__________________
"In the time of your life, live --- so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it all." William Saroyan 1908-1981
johnstarnes is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 10:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
3.8 Liter V6
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 436
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by 460ford View Post
Sure about that? How about new Fusion 4 years after it's launch ( Still a very competitive car and has had updates along the way most notably the 2.5 for 09), New Taurus for 2010 two years after the 08 was launched ( Looks nothing like current one either), New F150 for 2009 even though it is still class leading in many ways, Or maybe the fact that Ford has designed 2 Mustangs in the time it has taken GM to finally come out with a Camaro 5 years later? The only vehicles that Ford has let linger without much of anything around are the ones that previous management had already driven into the ground ( Ranger, Panther cars). I would say lately that Ford has been giving us some pretty good updates and re designs in a timely manner.
Except the Focus. What the hell is that monstrosity? God damn, that car is ugly. I bought a 2004 Focus ZX3 new (my first new car). Loved it. I wouldn't touch the new one with a 10 foot pole. Fugly!!!!!!!!
__________________
Please research before you run your mouth!
Quote:
According to the Alberta Energy and Utilities Board, Alberta's oil sand deposits contain approximately 1.7 trillion barrels of bitumen, of which over 175 billion are recoverable with current technology, and 315 billion barrels are utimately recoverable with technological advances. The Athasbasca Oil Sands Deposit is, by itself, the largest petroleum resource in the world. - http://www.SynCrude.CA/users/folder.asp?FolderID=5753 - viewed 10-17-2007
ColinOpseth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 11:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
3.9 Liter V6
 
osv_alero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dundee, Oregon
Drives: 2006 HHR 2LT
Posts: 829
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by 460ford View Post
Sure about that? How about new Fusion 4 years after it's launch ( Still a very competitive car and has had updates along the way most notably the 2.5 for 09), New Taurus for 2010 two years after the 08 was launched ( Looks nothing like current one either), New F150 for 2009 even though it is still class leading in many ways, Or maybe the fact that Ford has designed 2 Mustangs in the time it has taken GM to finally come out with a Camaro 5 years later? The only vehicles that Ford has let linger without much of anything around are the ones that previous management had already driven into the ground ( Ranger, Panther cars). I would say lately that Ford has been giving us some pretty good updates and re designs in a timely manner.
I do agree that GM does the same thing. Both companies have made this comment multiple times only to have a few of their vehicles linger for 5 or more years. Something you have noted above. Everyone here knows I am a big GM fan and root for Ford to regain the #2 spot, but both companies have a habit of letting certain cars age well past their due date. They need to be more consistent and let NONE of their cars get over aged.

That could be said of the chassis as much as the car as a whole. The Focus had a GREAT opportunity in 2000 to make a big change in the small car area for US automakers. It has great handling, eventually Ford got the quality right, and the car was a great overall performer. The Focus was a class leading product when it was introduced. They let the chassis get too old and have put too little effort into making it class leading. Unfortunately Ford let it age well past its prime. The same could not be said of the Cobalt as it wasn’t considered class leading when it came out.
__________________
The U.S. trade deficit with China increases by $1 billion a day
The U.S. trade deficit for automobiles alone is $11 billion per month


http://americaneconomicalert.org/


For every one transplant job added in the US, nearly five jobs are eliminated
osv_alero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 12:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
3.6 Liter V6
 
CrunkedRL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Columbus,OH
Drives: 1998 Saturn SL2 2004 Saturn Vue RL
Posts: 1,147
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by wescoent View Post
Such as the 2003 "redesigns" for the Navigator, Town Car, and LS.

Those days are over.
I wouldn't be so certain the 2010 Ford Fusion is only a nip tucked version of the current model. IMO this should have been a mid-life cycle update after a 3yr. run. I think what will help Ford in their efforts is their decision to bring a few Euro models over to the US. But even some of those will be due for a refresh by the time they make landfall.
__________________
Current Fleet:

04' Saturn Vue RL 3.5L Honda V6
98' Saturn SL2 1.9L 16 Valve DOHC I4

Last edited by CrunkedRL : 06-17-2008 at 12:35 PM.
CrunkedRL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 12:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
6.0 Liter LS2 V8
 
BrickTamland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Waterville, OH
Drives: 2003 Nissan Maxima SE
Posts: 4,370
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by wescoent View Post
Such as the 2003 "redesigns" for the Navigator, Town Car, and LS.

Those days are over.
The 2003 Navigator was all new and the 2003 LS was just a mid-cycle update. But I do agree with the 2003 Town Car. I would also add the 2007 Navigator and Expedition, 2006 Explorer and Mountaineer, 2008 F-Series Super Duty. While any of those may be significantly revised underneath, outside they look like mid-cycle updates, and that is all the cusomter sees.
__________________
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Current: Super Black 2003 Nissan Maxima SE
Former: Brilliant Blue Metallic 1995 Ford Explorer XLT 4WD
BrickTamland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 04:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
2.2 Liter ECOTEC
 
kgm777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Drives: 2007 Cadillac DTS
Posts: 60
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

The 2003 Town Car was a refresh, not a re-design, and most of the improvements were under the skin. Now Ford needs to work on a total Town Car redesign as the current model will be 11 years old when the '09 models arrive.
kgm777 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2008, 06:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
 
Greg Burr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Drives: 2003 Ford Escape XLT AWD
Posts: 613
Re: Ford shortens styling cycle

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericmvest View Post
Your post is very good. Ford is becoming increasingly competitive and getting its act together.
In 2010, if Ford is still around, a lot more people will be saying that Ford's a kinda cool car company.
Greg Burr is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  GM Inside News Forum > Press Room > The Competition



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:45 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
©2008 GMInsidenews.com.
GMInsideNews.com is not affiliated with GM, General Motors or any GM Divisions in any capacity.
GMInsideNews.com is an enthusiasts' forum dedicated entirely to news about GM vehicles.
  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.