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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    "Ford sees no place in the future for small pickups that have been left to rot on the vine eight years past when an appropriate redesign would have been due, so the Ranger will be phased out."
    There, that makes the statement more understandable.

    I really dislike the retreat strategy. Of course, there's a market for a properly executed small pick-ups for the U.S.. And I see no reason to abandon it to foreign-branded automakers.

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Back in the mid-nineties my friend leased his Ranger for $95 a month. An incredible deal for anyone, especially College students/recent grads. Ford sold or leased as many as they could make because:

    1) You could get them as cheaply as a stripped economy car.
    2) Ford had just given the Ranger a major (and apparently it's last) refresh.
    3) The size was right.
    4) You could get one with as much or as little content as you wanted.

    It would be good to see Ford or GM design a new small pick-up like the current Ranger or old S-10.
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    As long as the spy shots of GM testing a new small truck shows a trcuk destined for our shores, I could care less about the death of teh ranger...bring it on! GM can dominate small truck like Chrysler dominates the van market!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenman923 View Post
    They should put the money into giving the Ranger a major redesign instead of killing it.
    Cant. The platform has been out since 81 and doesnt meet NHTSA crash standards that will be implimented on all 2012 vehicles.

    See: Ford Ranger being forced out of small truck market in 2011, not deciding to abandon it.
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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Let me make this clear. The Ranger is being redesigned, and there will be a new truck capable of being sold in the US available following the death of our version.

    However, will Americans be willing to pay for it?
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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    This is fine by me if the truck can get over 25 mpg. MPG is 100% the reason I buy small 4cyl trucks. I drive about 60-80 miles a day and thoes few MPG's make a difference.

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    One thing that people seem to be missing is that the Ford Ranger is the only small pickup still on the market. Everyone else moved up to the mid sized range, if you wanted a small pickup truck then the Ford Ranger was your only choice.

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Quote Originally Posted by PontiacBixler View Post
    Here is the problem:
    Consumers want a small pickup at a reasonable price, in comparison to the current full sized trucks
    Automakers want to sell such a vehicle at $1000 under the price of the full sized offerings.

    A new Ranger should be priced in line with the Feista/Focus. Any small pickup should be priced at the equivalent of the compact car offerings at said auto manufacturer.
    Yeah that ^^^^ plus they want to remove $2000 worth of creature comforts to make up for that $1000 lower price. Additionally a small truck needs to get significantly better fuel mileage than its full-sized counterpart (+2 mpg is NOT significantly better).

    In some cases, bigger is not better and will not justify higher prices. We see the pricing of smaller cars climbing to justify/cover better equipment/technology so don't "dumb down" truck content to give us smaller size without giving us something...mileage or comparatively lower pricing.
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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    What if you could buy an F-150 that got 25mpg?
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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Quote Originally Posted by atomicshark View Post
    Back in the mid-nineties my friend leased his Ranger for $95 a month. An incredible deal for anyone, especially College students/recent grads. Ford sold or leased as many as they could make because:

    1) You could get them as cheaply as a stripped economy car.
    2) Ford had just given the Ranger a major (and apparently it's last) refresh.
    3) The size was right.
    4) You could get one with as much or as little content as you wanted.

    It would be good to see Ford or GM design a new small pick-up like the current Ranger or old S-10.

    They lost money on every one sold. They needed them for Truck CAFE to sell the Explorers, Expeditions, and F-150 that were flying out of showrooms. GM had similar leases on the S10/Sonoma.

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out


    Looks like i'll be picking one of these up and then doing a 2JZ-GTE swap on it. Because I want a small pickup with power.

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Quote Originally Posted by K Dawg ONE View Post
    As long as the spy shots of GM testing a new small truck shows a trcuk destined for our shores, I could care less about the death of teh ranger...bring it on! GM can dominate small truck like Chrysler dominates the van market!

    <<<< I <3 mini-turcks!
    Working for GM one of the most common questions I get asked is when will GM bring back the S-10 pickup. I really believe it would sell....here in Michigan at least.

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post

    Looks like i'll be picking one of these up and then doing a 2JZ-GTE swap on it. Because I want a small pickup with power.
    Are you going Back to the Future???
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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    That's BS....

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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

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    What if you could buy an F-150 that got 25mpg?
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    Re: "Ford sees no place in future for small pickups, so the Ranger will be phased out

    Quote Originally Posted by PontiacBixler View Post
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