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GMI Staff Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
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Ford banks on new models
SOURCE: Detroit News
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Muskego, WI
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Re: Ford banks on new models
it will be interesting to see if it works... I dont think the Edge sold as much as they wanted... i hope they find some good sales
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6.0 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: An American living in Finland
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Re: Ford banks on new models
As much as they need the new F-150, Ford flat out blew it big time by not
bringing over the all new Focus. I'd seriously look at some of the good product we have here in Europe, like the C-Max and Focus. Ford needs to use it's world wide resources like GM does. Admit that the Ford 500/ Taurus is a bust, and make more appealing bolder styled product like GM is bringing out.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: Ford banks on new models
Ford has so many great vehicles in Europe. I do not understand why not build those vehicles here in America and sell them here and you can even export some of the to europe since dollar is not worth much. If ford did that. They would not lose market share and money. Look at Euro focus and engines that it has. Wow it would be best Small car here by far. Ford Mondeo that is another great vehicle.
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5.3 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Mar 2006
Drives: Ford SVT Contour
BMW 635CSi
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Re: Ford banks on new models
Here's a marketing tip for the marketing guy: Don't launch the F150 with the same old powertrain. They should wait until the Boss is ready and launch them together- it would cause a huge splash. Instead, it likely will come with the outclassed Triton 5.4, together with the usual "but wait till the good motor gets here." They make this mistake too often (Five Hundred/Taurus, Zephyr/MKZ, likely MKS as well). As badly as Ford needs to get the new F-150 out, I think it would be better to wait until the package is complete.
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Ford banks on new models
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from 4.0l SOHC V6 (200 hp/ 260 ft.lbs) to 3.7l DOHC V6 (270hp. / 270ft.lbs) from 2v 4.6l V8 (248hp / 284 ft.lbs) to 3v V8 (300hp / 300ft.lbs) from current 5.4l V8 (300hp / 365 ft.lbs) to new 5.4l V8 (320hp / 380ft.lbs) That means, that Ford's 5.4l V8 will SURPASS the 6.0l Vortec MAX in torque ... hmm ... and the 6.2l is only 6 months late with over 400ft.lbs of torque. moreover - there will be no 4speed autos in the 09 F150 - only 6 speeds .. Igor |
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3.9 Liter V6
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dundee, Oregon
Drives: 2006 HHR 2LT
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Re: Ford banks on new models
The frugel advertising dollars on everything but the trucks is anothe reason the American makes have suffered in the sales department. The Aura is a great example of an awesome product the public didn't know about.
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: Ford banks on new models
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I mean, it's interesting, and good for Ford for getting the 5.4L's torque that high, but it's no secret that Ford's V8's are typically high on torque and low on horsepower for their displacement. Are you equally tickled that Chevy is able to get slightly better gas mileage out of the 6.0L than Ford gets out of their current 5.4L (13/18 vs. 13/17 2WD)? Go ahead - lol if you want. |
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Ford banks on new models
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Yes, Ford has been torque heavy - really the only redeeming feature of the "can't rev high or I will explode" TRITON family The 5.4l will be perfectly capable engine for the masses and the 6.2l will finally put Ford back on the map for the image conscious "urban truckers' and other people who are dumb enough to care about HP on a truck .. I am still baffled about how Gm manages to get those mileage figures with just a 4speed auto ... Ford should pay some GM engineers to come in fpr a month and point out what Ford is missing. Igor |
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4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Ford banks on new models
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They haven't yet forgotten the Contour. Great car for Europe, and I greatly enjoyed my 1996 SE V6. But Americans just wanted an updated Tempo, at least from Ford.
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
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