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Old 08-11-2004, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford announces pricing for new Five Hundred, Freestyle and Montego
AMY WILSON | Automotive News
Posted Date: 8/10/04

Prices for the 2005 Ford Five Hundred, a new mid-sized sedan, begin at $22,795 for a front-wheel-drive model, Ford Motor Co. said.
The all-wheel-drive Five Hundred starts at $24,495.

The 2005 Mercury Montego, a sister to the Five Hundred, begins at $24,995 for a fwd model and $26,695 for an awd model. All prices include destination charges.

Ford began production of the Five Hundred and Montego last month at its Chicago assembly plant. The vehicles will go on sale by early September, along with the 2005 Ford Freestyle sport wagon, also assembled in Chicago.

The three-row Freestyle will start at $25,595, including destination, for a fwd model. Awd models begin at $27,295, including destination.

Incentives at launch for the three models haven’t been determined, but they will be modest, Ford officials said. Ford also plans to limit fleet sales of the cars to corporate and government buyers.



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well, that certainly looks like a good price point on those cars, and they offer AWD for $2k more. not bad at all. however, the incentive thing bugs me. it's not even out yet and there are already incentives in the works. that's so stupid. incentives are going to kill profits for all U.S. manufacturers.

good show, drop the incentives.
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The pricing seems good, but it needs to be. The 500 is a pretty uncompelling package with 200 HP and bland styling. The tranny and oversized trunk are the only thing going for it.

When the 3.5 Duratec comes out in the 500, the car may be a much more compelling.

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That's waaay down in base Pontiac G6 V6 territory, PLUS incentives at launch. Seems like Chrysler and Ford are learning how to properly price their vehicles....some other Giant Manufacterer would be wise to take notice. Makes me wonder what the pricing on the, ugh, Fusion will be.
Huh? G6 prices will be $21,300 including destination....that looks like less than $22,795 to me. Besides if you'd rather save money with the Ford, go ahead, you'll need it to pay for the repairs later. Not to mention the 500 is bland and the G6 isn't.
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That's waaay down in base Pontiac G6 V6 territory, PLUS incentives at launch. Seems like Chrysler and Ford are learning how to properly price their vehicles....some other Giant Manufacterer would be wise to take notice. Makes me wonder what the pricing on the, ugh, Fusion will be.
When will these morons learn. The base G6 won't be rolled out until after the V6 model. The base G6 will be powered by a 2.4 liter Ecotec 4 cylinder. Thats model won't be rolled out until next year. Read the friggin boards. I'm new here and I've seen this same thing being discussed before. Oh and thank you Saturn for getting the truth out about the price of the V6 G6 model.

BTW If you are going to dump on GM, at least dump on them for something they are actually screwing up on. Lack of RWD Pontiacs, No Camaro, etc.

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Huh? G6 prices will be $21,300 including destination....that looks like less than $22,795 to me. Besides if you'd rather save money with the Ford, go ahead, you'll need it to pay for the repairs later. Not to mention the 500 is bland and the G6 isn't.
We won't talk about the styling attributes of the two, because while I think the 500 is bland, I also think that the G6 isn't all that remarkable.

With incentives on launch, that price gap will shrink and the 500 will be a lot closer to the G6. But for a meager price difference, you get more room, better transmission, classier interior, bigger trunk.....

Even still, I doubt the two cars will be cross-shopped all too often. On the surface they seem to appeal to different audiences, but someone looking to get the most out of a midsized sedan for around that much money would have a tough decision between the two.

In terms of repairs....neither the G6 or 500 have been released, so both of their quality is suspect until proven otherwise. But who cares? It's all covered under warranty. When the warranty is over, so is that car...that's how I do it.
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Read the friggin boards.
well then...

he said base Pontiac G6 V6 territory. not base G6 territory. the base V6 is the non-GT version. and the price is pretty close to the base price of the 500... which, while underpowered (same 200 hp as the G6 in a bigger car), has lots more room and a 5-speed that the G6 don't have. i'm all for the G6, and it'll be the sporting choice, but for those more interested in a roomy sedan for around $22,000, the 500 might very well syphon off G6 buyers.
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When will these morons learn. The base G6 won't be rolled out until after the V6 model. The base G6 will be powered by a 2.4 liter Ecotec 4 cylinder. Thats model won't be rolled out until next year. Read the friggin boards. I'm new here and I've seen this same thing being discussed before. Oh and thank you Saturn for getting the truth out about the price of the V6 G6 model.
Before you criticize me for not reading the boards, maybe you should take your own advice and read my post more carefully, newbie.

I said base G6 V6. The non-base G6 V6 is the GT, so I was making a distinction for purposes of clarity.

And I never said they were the same price, just in the same territory. I was being deliberately vague. Low 20s to me is in the same range.


Thank you Paul8488 for bringing some objective intelligence to this thread. But to be accurate, the Five Hundred will have either a CVT or a 6-Speed auto.
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Originally posted by Buick61+Aug 11 2004, 03:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buick61 @ Aug 11 2004, 03:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Saturn69@Aug 11 2004, 02:56 PM
Huh? G6 prices will be $21,300 including destination....that looks like less than $22,795 to me. Besides if you'd rather save money with the Ford, go ahead, you'll need it to pay for the repairs later. Not to mention the 500 is bland and the G6 isn't.
In terms of repairs....neither the G6 or 500 have been released, so both of their quality is suspect until proven otherwise. But who cares? It's all covered under warranty. When the warranty is over, so is that car...that's how I do it. [/b][/quote]
No kidding with the repairs, let them come out and run thier course before trying to accuse one of having more repairs than the other. Plus they have the same warrenty coverage.....
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The guy that said stuff about the G6 bein bland is smokin crack
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Originally posted by Buick61+Aug 11 2004, 03:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buick61 @ Aug 11 2004, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Darc Requiem@Aug 11 2004, 03:12 PM
When will these morons learn. The base G6 won't be rolled out until after the V6 model. The base G6 will be powered by a 2.4 liter Ecotec 4 cylinder. Thats model won't be rolled out until next year. Read the friggin boards. I'm new here and I've seen this same thing being discussed before. Oh and thank you Saturn for getting the truth out about the price of the V6 G6 model.
Before you criticize me for not reading the boards, maybe you should take your own advice and read my post more carefully, newbie.

I said base G6 V6. The non-base G6 V6 is the GT, so I was making a distinction for purposes of clarity.

And I never said they were the same price, just in the same territory. I was being deliberately vague. Low 20s to me is in the same range.


Thank you Paul8488 for bringing some objective intelligence to this thread. But to be accurate, the Five Hundred will have either a CVT or a 6-Speed auto. [/b][/quote]
Is that the 6-speed that was supposedly being jointly developed by Ford and GM? If that's the case, I don't understand why GM hasn't started putting them in their cars yet.
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Curious to see what the pricing is of these cars is in Canada. I figure still slightly under $30K CDN. Anyone else have an idea?
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Curious to see what the pricing is of these cars is in Canada. I figure still slightly under $30K CDN. Anyone else have an idea?
They'll definately keep it under 30k Canadian.
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Originally posted by paul8488+Aug 11 2004, 08:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (paul8488 @ Aug 11 2004, 08:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Darc Requiem@Aug 11 2004, 03:12 PM
Read the friggin boards.
well then...

he said base Pontiac G6 V6 territory. not base G6 territory. the base V6 is the non-GT version. and the price is pretty close to the base price of the 500... which, while underpowered (same 200 hp as the G6 in a bigger car), has lots more room and a 5-speed that the G6 don't have. i'm all for the G6, and it'll be the sporting choice, but for those more interested in a roomy sedan for around $22,000, the 500 might very well syphon off G6 buyers. [/b][/quote]
The base Ford 500 will have the CVT tranny.
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Is that the 6-speed that was supposedly being jointly developed by Ford and GM?&nbsp; If that's the case, I don't understand why GM hasn't started putting them in their cars yet.
I remember hearing/reading that it was a different six-speed, and that the new one won't start production for awhile yet for either manufacturer. [/b][/quote]
This is true. I'm not really sure about the status of the transmission collaboration between Ford and GM but the transmission in the Five Hundred/Freestyle/Montego is not a result of this collaboration. The 6-speed of these vehicles was designed by a Japanese company called AISIN while the CVT, for that matter, was created by the German company ZF (Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen, if you're wondering). On a side note, ZF also designed the 6-speed auto that'll be going into the '05 Navigator.
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