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FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
Seems Goshn is still pushing, was in discussions with FoMoCo.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
I am so glad they found Mulally. If he were not running the show there, I suspect Bill Ford would've been inclined to let Ghosn get his hands into the business, and that would've been a disaster.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
I'm in total agreement with Mulally, Ford doesn't need a partner. Just produce
world class vehicles that are desirable for the current market. Not warmed over products like the current North American Focus that is now one generation behind it's European cousin.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
Very true! Actually Ford in my position is in a better place that GM if they would just make the right calls. Take the current Ford Focus even if they can not bring the Euro version here they could have just styled the current one better and upgraded the quality and fit and finish of the interior. It rides better than most other car cars in its segment and still gets competitive MPG's. Plus they dropped the hatch back when they are finally taking off in the US market.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
He's right; bringing a partner into this would be a bad idea. If Ford is going to turnaround, it's going to be on it's own.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
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Ford has too many different platforms across the globe and costs are way too high as a result to shift cars in between regions. (i.e. The Euro Focus) GM is still dealing with this issue, but everything is already in motion to limit the amount of platforms and make the production process easier and cheaper. Ford has yet to really show it's plans for the future and has no clear plan for it's other brands such as Lincoln and Mercury. |
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
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Borg, you gotta realize we read and listen to every information about FML-product plans, brand plans, etc....so some who are GM fans or those who just don't pay attention to Ford news and rumors are unaware of the progress and plan laid out by Ford. Of course, most of these plans and rumors aren't written out in articles, but received through sources, so of course most don't realize the scope of whats happening at FoMoCo....
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
If Ford was going to partner with anyone else, it would probably be Peugeot or Fiat as they already have joint-ventures with them (diesels & KA/Street KA-Fiat 500).
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
+1 and also, Peugeot-Citroen and Fiat have a joint-venture in minivan (Fiat Ulysse, Citroen C8), I could imagine in a more mid-term a triumvirate Ford-Fiat-Peugeot
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
No never, Ford family will always want to wear the pants. This discussion happened in the late 90's when Schrempp wanted to get it on with... Alex Trotman (?) who ran Ford at the time.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
Take Lincoln global.
I bet the current Lincoln line-up would sell better in Europe than Cadillac because it is 100% different than the European Ford line-up (and still distinctly American). Mercury I still think needs to be killed. Ford on the bottom, Lincoln and Volvo on top (different cars same price space). I'd even say offload Volvo if you can. Ford needs to be Chrysler small when it comes to brands. GM should do something similar, but there are just too many brands as is and killing one or two wouldn't do any good.
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Re: FoMoCo says no need for partners; Mulally wants to sell Lincolns in China/Russia
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i am glad they have their LUTZ.. lol or someone like that But i think they should try to global.. i hope they have luck |
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