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Old 07-20-2008, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ferrari Planning To Build A Hybrid Sportscar

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I think that there is no need in reminding you that greenhouse gases are affecting the air which is more and more polluted. Due to this problem, car manufacturers are forced to design greener cars that will not have negative impacts on the environment.

We all know what Toyota managed to do as the Prius is the most renowned hybrid-car in the world. A while ago, the European Council came up with a new rule which will lead the automakers to manufacture cars with an 130g/km limit of the CO2 levels by 2012. This ruling would ruin the business of supercar manufacturers like Ferrari or Lamborghini.

In a recent interview with German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo said that they are planning to reduce CO2 levels by 40% before 2012. They will make it possible thanks to a new hybrid technology and Ferrari might build cars powered by turbocharged V6 engines which are smaller and more fuel-efficient.

“We are currently working on the development of a Ferrari that will use alternative energy sources and which will be based on what we are doing at the moment in Formula 1″, he said. KERS or Kinetic Energy Recycling System is a technique based on the brake-energy-regeneration principle and it consists of a super-efficient CVT gearbox which uses a spinning flywheel to harness energy when the car brakes. This energy will be perfect to increase the acceleration
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well see Corvette headed in that direction in the future too.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I am probably going to be labled a heritic by the pro global warming crowd, so be it.

I just have a serious problem with this theory. The earth has warmed and cooled way before we ever industrialized. I just think there is a lot more to this than is being stated.

Carbon Dioxide is a part of life. We breathe it out. Plants take it in.

The problem I really have is that if we were to ban all cars, the earth population is still most likely going to still double. Which means more Carbon Dioxide not less.

How much of the earths warming and cooling is really carbon dioxide, and how much is really the sun?

How much is more loss of habitat to development?

I just feel that carbon dioxide has been made out to be the modern day boogie man.

I just don't buy the theory. I am sorry, that is the "inconvienent truth of it"

Why is it that people like Gore tell us how to live yet, their lifestyles seem to one of privilege.

It is more like do as I say, not as I do.
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I am probably going to be labled a heritic by the pro global warming crowd, so be it.

I just have a serious problem with this theory. The earth has warmed and cooled way before we ever industrialized. I just think there is a lot more to this than is being stated.

Carbon Dioxide is a part of life. We breathe it out. Plants take it in.

The problem I really have is that if we were to ban all cars, the earth population is still most likely going to still double. Which means more Carbon Dioxide not less.

How much of the earths warming and cooling is really carbon dioxide, and how much is really the sun?

How much is more loss of habitat to development?

I just feel that carbon dioxide has been made out to be the modern day boogie man.

I just don't buy the theory. I am sorry, that is the "inconvienent truth of it"

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I agree. When I was a kid in the mid-70s, the world's population was 4 billion. Now it's 6.5 billion and rising daily. That's more than a 50% increase in 30 years. An extra 2.5 billion sources of C02 compared to an extra few hundred million with an m cars and trucks. The world's population will reach 10 billion by about 2030, so even if we stop making cars (notgonnahappen.com), we'll still have a problem. And places like Vegas and Arizona where people have the a/c on full blast 24 hours a day 365/yr in every house/office/casino don't help either. Have a nice day!
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Sad when a company that sells so few specialized cars has to cave in to enviro-faschists.
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sad when a company that sells so few specialized cars has to cave in to enviro-faschists.
Don't cry for the super sports cars. It make take a few iterations to work out the technology, but hybrids and full electric drivetrains will blow the gas engined cars away. Eventually making you wonder why they stuck with those old antiquated internal combustion engines for so long.
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Don't cry for the super sports cars. It make take a few iterations to work out the technology, but hybrids and full electric drivetrains will blow the gas engined cars away. Eventually making you wonder why they stuck with those old antiquated internal combustion engines for so long.
because they make sexy sounds! and i believe someone will be swimming with the fishes if they threaten the Italian stallion! there will obviously be concessions for small auto makers.

if you think 300 million americans pollute a lot, wait until 1.2 BILLION chinese and 1+ billion indians start consumer western-style!! THEY are the major reason why fuel (not only gasoline) prices will skyrocket. we NEED a truly renewable energy source - growing it doesn't cut it. raping the earth of it minerals to feed our cars, and starve humans is insane. it has to be hydrogen or solar power for ev. fuel cells are incredibly expensive, and use precious metals. co2 isn't a problem...and all cars on the planet today account for <0.1% of all production. these regulations are purely for control.

it's insane to use a 400 hp engine to push around a 4000 lb vehicle, while only carrying a single passenger. or even a

as far as ferrari, a 2000 lb dino with 300+ hp v6 will keep up with a 430, and turn way better. put a couple of turbos on it, and it'll keep up with the enzo. the kers system will boost acceleration, although it has the potential to reduce fuel consumption. i also think they'll be using massive wings and ground effects to regain the download. i can't wait for the F70
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because they make sexy sounds! ....
So put baseball cards in your spokes.
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......it's insane to use a 400 hp engine to push around a 4000 lb vehicle, while only carrying a single passenger......
and it's only 3700 lbs
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I am probably going to be labled a heritic by the pro global warming crowd, so be it.
Um, I think you're in the "pro global warming crowd" since you don't want to do anything about it. And the people who want to stop it are the anti-global warming crowd.

But I'll probably be labeled as a heritic by the pro bad grammer crowd.
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I am probably going to be labled a heritic by the pro global warming crowd, so be it.

I just have a serious problem with this theory. The earth has warmed and cooled way before we ever industrialized. I just think there is a lot more to this than is being stated.

Carbon Dioxide is a part of life. We breathe it out. Plants take it in.

The problem I really have is that if we were to ban all cars, the earth population is still most likely going to still double. Which means more Carbon Dioxide not less.

How much of the earths warming and cooling is really carbon dioxide, and how much is really the sun?

How much is more loss of habitat to development?

I just feel that carbon dioxide has been made out to be the modern day boogie man.

I just don't buy the theory. I am sorry, that is the "inconvienent truth of it"

Why is it that people like Gore tell us how to live yet, their lifestyles seem to one of privilege.

It is more like do as I say, not as I do.
I too have a problem with the MMGW theory. Until it can be proven that MMGW exists AND CO2 is harmful to the environment, I don't think there should be any laws allowed that restrict or regulate it. If they can prove that something is bad for the environment, then I'm all for it. But just because Al Gore says it's bad (while he drives his armored limo brigades, flies around in his personal jet, and uses 12X the electricity of average people), doesn't make it so.

Show me the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth.
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It is not that I am against finding an alternative power source for automobiles, I just find the current options are just not viable in a majority of the world... Sure a electic and hybrid are great in a city, but what happens if u have a commute for a drive, your electric may not make it there and back without needing a charge (and just were do we have a convient charging station? And then lets not think about a road trip vacation) and hybrids just don't get that great of mileage... we have a neighbour that has a prius, and commutes to Toronto and back (about a 200 km round trip I believe) and I bet he would be hard pressed to be getting the same mileage as my 99 Malibu (despite his taking a full km to get to 80 km/h and staying there) So really until something can perform to the same level as what an internal combution engine does, I can't see myself going for it (oh well maybe the gas company has bought me, like a hybrid supporting co-worker told me as I pointed this all out to her)...
OH another though, what happens when everyone has to plug in their cars at nite and then the hydro infrastructure can't handle it causing a catastric power failure? (guess they never though of that either)
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