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Old 08-24-2004, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ferrari F430 will debut at Paris Motor show
Posted by: kak on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 12:28 PM CET

The F430 signals the arrival of a brand new generation of Ferrari 8-cylinder models. This new car takes Ferrari's extraordinary achievements with aluminium technology, begun with the 360 Modena, to a whole new level, and offers a series of extremely significant innovations directly derived from the Ferrari Formula 1 single-seaters. Two of these innovations are world firsts for production cars: the electronic differential (E-Diff) and the steering wheel-mounted switch (better known to the Formula 1 Scuderia's drivers as "manettino"), which manages the integrated systems governing vehicle dynamics.

The other main characteristics of the new F430 are its light, compact 4,300 cc 90° V8 engine, which punches out 490 hp to achieve a specific output of 114 hp/litre, also providing the new Ferrari berlinetta with a weight-to-power ratio of 2.8 kg/hp (dry weight); a braking system with carbon-ceramic discs for optimal efficiency under extreme use (optional); a Formula 1-derived gearbox that cuts gear shifting times down to 150 milliseconds allowing the driver to make the very most of this truly high performance car (0-62 mph acceleration in 4 seconds flat, a top speed in excess of 196 mph) and an aerodynamic design that embodies the very latest competition technologies, specifically the flat underbody and large rear diffuser to increase downforce.

The car will be officially presented during the Paris Motor show in September 2004.

The UK price and specification for the F430 will be announced prior to its UK launch in 2005.

F430 - Technical Specifications

Dimensions

Overall length: 4512 mm 176.6 in
Overall width: 1923 mm 75.7 in
Height: 1214 mm 47.8 in
Wheelbase: 2600 mm 102.3 in
Front track: 1669 mm 65.7 in
Rear track: 1616 mm 63.6 in
Kerb weight: 1450 kg 3197 lb

Engine

Type: 90° V8
Bore/stroke: 92 mm x 81 mm 3.50 x 3.03 cu in
Unit displacement: 538.5 cc 32.86 cu in
Total displacement: 4,308 cc 262.89 cu in
Compression ratio: 11.3:1
Maximum power: 360.4 kW (490 CV*) at 8500 rpm
Maximum torque: 465 Nm (47.4 kgm or 343 lbft) at 5250 rpm
Specific horse power: 114 CV*/l

Performance

Maximum speed: >315 km/h > 196 mph
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 4.0 s

* For reasons of homogeneity, engine power is expressed in kW, in accordance with the International Systems of Units (SI), and CV (cavalli = horse power). The brake horse power (bhp) can be calculated as follows: 1kW = 1.34 bhp.

[source: newspress.co.uk]

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All I gotta say is...nice.
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like the 360 to me. I like it though.
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490 Horsepower out of a 4.3 litre V8!! Those are incredible numbers, I cant wait to see this car in person at the NAIAS.
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So what does GM have to compete with Ferrari?
Should GM have something to compete against the exotics?
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The new Z06 sould be able to stand up to this. The base c6 is a match for the 360. Also the Blue Devil will be a good competitor.
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So what does GM have to compete with Ferrari?
Should GM have something to compete against the exotics?
Have you ever heard of the Chevrolet Corvette?:mf_boff:
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The Vette is a great sports car. The ZO6 is a even better sports car but they are not exotics. The rumored Blue Devil would be a competitor but since it is only a rumor at this point my question is should GM bother being in this market or just stick to where the Vette plays with the 911 and others?
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wow, its 360 modena! but with another name. i have to say those numbas are impressive
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Originally posted by giagastormer+Aug 24 2004, 03:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (giagastormer @ Aug 24 2004, 03:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Canuck@Aug 24 2004, 09:21 PM
So what does GM have to compete with Ferrari?*
Should GM have something to compete against the exotics?
Have you ever heard of the Chevrolet Corvette?:mf_boff: [/b][/quote]
God damn it! Don't start this crap again. A new exotic comes out and someone is foolish enough to ask what GM has to that can go against it and out comes "Corvette" liked some canned response. It's almost as if it's staged, "I'll ask what GM car compares to this Ferrari and you say Corvette like every GM fan would expect to hear, AND ALREADY KNOWS!" Fans of this Ferrari probably don't give a crap about the Corvette and fans of the Corvette probably don't give a crap about this Ferrari so what's the point of making the comparison unless you're actually objective and can see both cars for their respective merits?
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Well, it looks good. Though I dont like the interior AT ALL. It looks like it has a front bench seat with the open space between the dash and the center console. The rest of it looks good, though back end is really the only difference I see between this and the 360, the front is identical. Still looks great though.

As far as the question about what does GM have to compete with this, it really depends what criteria you use to compare. If you are talking price, GM doesnt have anything that even comes close to this. If you talk performace, The stock C6 is 4.3 seconds 0-60 as opposed to the F430's 4.0second 0-60. The C6 Z51 is 4.1 seconds 0-60 so its only .01 seconds behind the Ferrari. So when the C6 Z06 comes out, with 100 more horsepower than the car thats only .01 seconds behind the ferrari, the Z06 should lay it to waste.

So its all about what kind of comparison you are talking about.
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Would be kinda funny if the $55,000 ZO6 beats this over-priced wonder. Sorry guys I would even take the, GET READY FOR THIS ONE GUYS, the FORD GT over that Ferrari. Little off the topic but is GM still planning on buying out Fiat?? If I remember right I think Fiat also owns Ferrari so would that mean that Ferrari would be part of the mighty GM?? Then I would think otherwise about Ferrari, hell who knows maybe they should build a SUV. Sorry guys, it's late, had a long day so disregard this possible flame war.
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I dont think GM is still looking to buy Fiat, in fact, they went out of their way to NOT buy Fiat. Besides, they would just have been buying the Fiat motors part of the larger Fiat corporation. Ferrari, is not a holding withing the motor division, but of the larger Fiat company, so Ferrari would not have been part of the buy anyway.
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Sorry guys I would even take the, GET READY FOR THIS ONE GUYS, the FORD GT over that Ferrari.

hell who knows maybe they should build a SUV.
Disregarding your hatred of it, this was Ford's plan for the GT all along in that the goal was to make a vehicle attractive to someone in the market for an entry-level Ferrari. The GT accomplishes this in being able to outperform Ferrari's base offering, the 360 Modena, while also costing less but still maintaining an air of exclusivity. It is this element of the GT, and any Ferrari, that the Corvette does not possess to as strong a degree, regardless of how good its performance or value is relative to these exotics. I know the last Corvette I saw was a yellow C5 heading the other direction I was going on my way home yesterday afternoon but what about a Ferrari? I can't tell you because I don't remember. I have seen them on the road before, but only on a couple of occasions. It is this rarity that sets it apart from other vehicles and it is this rarity that Ford will get a piece of with the GT. So is GM upset? No, because GM knows that Ford's GT and the Ferraris that it is designed to compete against all belong to a different market from that of the Corvette and that anyone who is interested in actually purchasing such cars probably isn't as interested in purchasing a Corvette. Besides, I don't know what all the fuss is about that Corvette fans have over the GT because, after all, the target for the GT was Ferrari to begin with, not Chevrolet. People need to put vehicles into context before they start making judgements.

Switching gears, when it comes to a Ferrari SUV, I've heard of no such idea on the drawing boards but Lamborghini apparently has the desire to build one using something out of Volkswagen's inventory for 2006 (VW owns Lamborghini).
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Please not another high performance SUV (Lamborghini). I cant wait to see the replacement for the 575 Maranello.
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