4 cyl F-150? Can a 4 cyl Silverado be far behind?

[member12]

A 3.0L 4 cylinder turbo diesel maybe....but only if it has 6.09:1 back end and a 6 speed manual....and lost about 450 lbs.

[F14CRAZY]

No, just no. A 5.3L can idle along and pull a Silvy around all day and think nothing of it but a turbo 4 banger is going to be in boost a lot of the time

[F14CRAZY]

Note: recently I made a thread on the General Discussion board about fuel economy, and how a Mazda CX7 gets like the same mileage as an Edge. A turbo 4 banger is NOT suitable for moving around a large, heavy vehicle

[Extreme4x4]

Yep.............. thats because there can never be any advancements, or improvements in engines, and technologies. Everything is always the same.

Hmmmm..............

[GMusa]

Originally Posted by Slideways

Maybe so, but do you think the F-150 is light? 5,000lbs is a lot of mass for 260hp. The question is will consumers who need trucks be willing to accept less-than-impressive acceleration for decent fuel economy. I think they will, especially if they are making the switch to smaller, slower cars.

260?... Ford will at least get 300hp out of the ecoboost.

and its rumored that the turbo-4 in the solstice could easily produce 300.

Its going to be intereting to see what automakers do.

[Ming]

Originally Posted by RamJet502

Its sad that we are talking about 4 cylinder fullsize pickups because GM refuses to address the Colorado. The truck market is perfect for a great smaller pickup right now.

Absolutely. Aside from GM's volume business model with trucks that has long favored its big trucks over its small ones, I can't see any reason why a 4-cylinder Silverado (or Camaro for that matter) would make much sense. Ford and GM seem awfully averse to promoting (marketing) and selling more than a small number of their Canyonrodo and Ranger small trucks.

You either beef up and turbo the 4-banger so much that its fuel efficiency is near gone, or you have a gutless wonder trying to haul around a whole lot of weight.

Where are the announcements related to the partnership with GM do Brasil regarding the smaller trucks they were supposed to be helping on?

Ford or GM doing a 4-banger F-150 and Silverado just looks like a desperate attempt to sell their most profitable trucks in an environment that is hostile towards large trucks. If they can somehow swing the fuel economy while maintaining some get up and go, more power to them. If not, save us the embarassment it will cause.

On the other hand, I've long been saying how the Japanese and Chinese carry around huge loads with 3-cylinder trucks, so perhaps a turbocharged 4 is not so ridiculous (still would make more sense in a smaller truck).

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[dindak]

One thing people have to remember is that GM is in the middle of a cash crunch. There is not a lot of money for new trucks when they are being shunned. GM needs to make due with things they have and dropping a turbocharged 4 in a full size is not a horrible idea.

This is the new reality folks. The truck market could be dead for good if things don't reverse themselves soon.

[tholland]

It wasn't that long ago there was a pissing match over horsepower and towing capacity. Now we expect the equivalent of turning an aircraft carrier on a dime? Maybe not quite that, but some noticeable course correction would be welcome.

And yes... it is hugely disappointing that small trucks are languishing at GM.

[DirtyMoney]

Originally Posted by Ambalanche

http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-f-1...html#more-8063

This states the 2.5 cyl turbo will have 260 hp., the same as our 2.0 turbo. Actually, it seems reasonable this would work in a truck since not that long ago even the V8's didn't have this much power. I know it wouldn't work for towing but for base trucks, single cab work trucks I think it would be good. What do y'all think?

The benefit of the engine is where the 300lbs of torque comes in.

[1931Chevy]

People but remember that this turbo 4 banger is only for the single cab model only so yes I think that this could work for people that dont need to haul 10,000 pounds with a big v8 but need a full size truck and GM should do the same

[Extreme4x4]

But, Ford is also building an F100, which will be a slightly smaller, and lightened F150 (think 97-04 F150 size). The 4cyl Ecoboost engine is supposed to be the optional engine in this platform.

There is also a redesigned "world" Ranger coming.

Ford is breaking everything down into niches, so that no matter what you need, they will have a product for it. There will be no "home runs" anymore, as that is unrealistic in todays market. There will, however, be alot of decent volume "world" vehicles, that make money based on economies of scale, worldwide.

GM will be making a mistake if they do not keep their trucks competitive. While the market will never be where it was, it is still very large.

[paul8488]

I also agree that while this might not be a horrible idea, it would seem equally smart for GM and Ford to invest in their small pickups. If I'm not looking for max towing or hauling power, I'd rather have a 4cyl Colorado than a 4cyl Silverado.

[baloo]

Current full-size trucks are hugely overpowered anyway. Semi trucks move 80,000lb with just 400-500 hp. That's 10-12.5 hp per ton, and here we are discussing how dangerously slow an F150 with 100 hp per ton would be.