2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

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    2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid
    Green Car Reports
    January 17, 2013
    by Antony Ingram

    The guessing is over, as Ford has revealed full EPA mileage figures for its 2013 Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid, after teasing its 108 MPGe highway rating a few weeks back.

    Joining the C-Max Energi in Ford's plug-in hybrid lineup, the Fusion Energi touts a combined 100 MPGe in blended electric mode, with city and highway figures of 108 and 92 MPGe.

    In regular hybrid mode, combined mileage is 43 mpg, with 44 mpg city and 31 highway.

    The Fusion's official range is 620 miles, 21 of those on electricity alone. Electric-only top speed is an impressive 85 mph, meaning silent highway cruising.

    That means the Fusion Energi offers better electric range than the Toyota Prius Plug-In (11 miles) and Honda Accord Plug-In (13 miles), but less than the range-extended Chevrolet Volt.

    The figures in hybrid mode also lag behind those of the Prius and Accord plug-ins, the former managing 50 mpg combined, the latter 46 combined. The Accord plug-in also offers greater blended efficiency, with an official 115 MPGe.

    Full article at link.

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    21 miles ** is pretty good, but I wonder if this will suffer from the mileage inflation the hybrid is taking a hit on.

    ** Please note, 21 miles is valid under controlled environments where a constant downward 1 degree slope is present.

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by usa1 View Post
    21 miles ** is pretty good, but I wonder if this will suffer from the mileage inflation the hybrid is taking a hit on.

    ** Please note, 21 miles is valid under controlled environments where a constant downward 1 degree slope is present.
    Some will complain that it doesn't get 21 miles because they have the A/C or heater on as well as the head lamps...
    I personally think this is a great effort from Ford, the big challenge is to improve battery capacity for added range
    and more compact size.

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    If this is the best foot forward Ford can do to uproot the Volt, they have failed. Of coarse in Ford's eyes this will be the best like everything else Ford makes.

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Dear Mr. Akerson and GM,

    Has the Malibu much to your chagrin been a dissapointment, and do you desire something notable to relaunch the revised Malibu? Release a Voltec Malibu with a 40 mile range, and price it within reach of those currently considering the upcoming Fusion Energi, and Honda Accord hybrid.

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    I think its cool for what it is. Lower tech than the Volt, but also at lower cost. I'd choose this over a Camry Hybrid, Prius, or BAS Malibu if I needed an efficient sedan.

    Of course, I'd prefer a diesel, so odds are I'd go with a Cruze diesel if available (and presuming I didn't need any roominess advantage the Fusion may have).
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Didn't this get a higher combined rating that the Volt? If so, how does this happen when the Volt can go a lot farther on pure electric?

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Didn't this get a higher combined rating that the Volt? If so, how does this happen when the Volt can go a lot farther on pure electric?
    I may be wrong, but isn't it because this still acts like a hybrid even when not on full EV mode, meaning significantly higher MPG's than the Volt's 31 after the pure EV runs out?

    (I don't have the figures in front of me, i'm just taking a guess, but I think I'm close).
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by Al63240 View Post
    I may be wrong, but isn't it because this still acts like a hybrid even when not on full EV mode, meaning significantly higher MPG's than the Volt's 31 after the pure EV runs out?

    (I don't have the figures in front of me, i'm just taking a guess, but I think I'm close).
    The Volt gets 98MPGe combined and 37mpg gasoline from the EPA. But keep in mind people often exceed these numbers. With it being winter now my MPGe numbers and MPGcs numbers are taking a tumble. But they will be coming back up in the spring.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/07/2...miles-98-mpge/

    I would be interested to see the real world numbers of the Fusion energi. Especially after the large gap in real world numbers from the EPA of the hybrid.
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Sounds pretty good.
    Too bad it can't be trusted to deliver in the real world.
    Or be driven like a real car and stay all electric.
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by Al63240 View Post
    I may be wrong, but isn't it because this still acts like a hybrid even when not on full EV mode, meaning significantly higher MPG's than the Volt's 31 after the pure EV runs out?

    (I don't have the figures in front of me, i'm just taking a guess, but I think I'm close).
    The Volt does act like a hybrid (and gets 37mpg on gas in the EPA cycle), when the battery is depleted. In fact, when in the depleted CS (Charge Sustaining) mode, it often runs on battery only (using energy recovered from deceleration) and the engine usually doesn't run at all below 20mph or so. The greater gas efficiency of the Fusion is probably due to a couple of things: 1) the engine is Atkinson cycle where the Volt's is not; 2) the Fusion's engine directly drives the wheels all the time when it runs, rather than running a generator to power electric motors (and sometimes partially connected directly to the wheels).

    As a Volt owner, IMO the Fusion Energi is a legitimate competitor to the Volt. It has some advantages and some disadvantages, and about equal green cred. It costs about the same to slightly cheaper, even after you factor in the Volt's twice-as-much federal tax break. Major things in the Fusion's favor are the more spacious cabin for 5, and it also has some more advanced options available including adaptive cruise control and self-parking. In fact if this plug-in powertrain gets offered in the Lincoln MKZ for 2014, that car will definitely be under consideration to replace my Volt. I doubt the Fusion will be on that list, mainly because I'm just not crazy about the cabin.
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    The EPA has to give up on this MPGe thing. It makes no sense that a car that has MORE electric range gets a lower MPGe rating. Since Voltec covers 80+% of a driver's daily commute in pure electric mode it should have the higher MPGe. But the EPA does some fancy dance and it comes in below the Fusion. It makes no sense and I have multiple degrees in this odd thing called "mathematics". For I can't comprehend how my daily commute of 50km would use LESS fuel in a Fusion than in a Volt since at the moment my daily commute usually uses NO fuel.

    But maybe I'm just not as smart as them gubmint scientists.
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    We will see if the ratings hold up once the wolves get a hold of Ford and start complaining.

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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Ford's plug In hybrids are not competing with Volt, they are two very different and attract different buyers.
    The success or otherwise of the Fords versus the GM Volt are completely independent of each other.

    I have every confidence that the electric range of Ford's energi hybrids will hold up to scrutiny just like Volt
    I also believe any city cycle mode or mixed speed test will show hybrid superiority over conventional vehicles

    But the elephant in the room that no one at the EPA is addressing is steady state running at highway speed,
    this has to be the worst circumstance for a hybrid where energy conservation is reduced and fuel usage the highest.
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    Re: 2013 Ford Fusion Energi: 21 Miles Of Electric Range From Plug-In Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    Ford's plug In hybrids are not competing with Volt, they are two very different and attract different buyers.
    The success or otherwise of the Fords versus the GM Volt are completely independent of each other.
    So in other words you want Ford to succeed, and care not if the Volt fails or did I misread your posts intent?


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