2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

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    2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    2012 Jeep Patriot
    Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    By Dan Roth
    Posted Dec 19th 2012



    Seventy years ago, the Jeep Patriot would have been amazing. In 1941, the year the original Jeep was drawn up, the power windows, air conditioning and automatic transmission in this Patriot Latitude were features only available in cars like Packards.

    The Patriot has features and dynamic capabilities unheard of back when the Jeep was an idea, not a brand. Seventy years of progress, perspective and turmoil has a way of turning the formerly amazing into the mundane. Since its introduction, along with its Compass close relation, this Illinois-built crossover has been viewed as the Fauxlex of Jeeps. It's based on the defunct Dodge Caliber, which itself shares the Mitsubishi GS platform, ensuring a complete lack of underlying Jeep DNA. The only link back to Karl Probst and his seminal design is some squared-off styling and the impression that the Patriot was also designed over a marathon weekend, just like that first Bantam proposal.

    There have been a couple rounds of updates to the Patriot to address previous foibles including its former horror chamber-like interior, along with moves to banish the traces of econobox from its styling. We wanted to sample these changes and see just how far the Patriot can go on its reserve of charm.

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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    Power windows, AC and automatic transmission was available in 1941? Could have fooled me.

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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    I actually really liked these until this week. My neice was renting one of these earlier this week. The trucklet had fewer than 3000 miles on the odometer and she had to return on christmas eve because it became stuck in park. It had to be towed away.

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    I have never driven one, but sat in them at the annual car show, and have always thought them to be nice, decent interior and front seat had nice room....just a little more MPG and I might have considered one a couple of years ago.

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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    Quote Originally Posted by osbornk View Post
    Power windows, AC and automatic transmission was available in 1941? Could have fooled me.
    The Hydra Matic was available in Oldsmobile from 1939 and Cadillacs from 1941. Packard did not have an automatic transmission in 1941, notwithstanding the author's comment to the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osbornk View Post
    Power windows, AC and automatic transmission was available in 1941? Could have fooled me.
    Yup. Packard didn't have an auto at the time, just a semi-auto I believe. But they did have power windows. And back then, A/C came only in enormous, ungainly machinery installed in the trunks of cars. It wasn't until American Motors, thanks to their refrigerator division Kelvinator, designed a unit that could be contained entirely underhood as an engine accessory did A/C take rates become significant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Arcuri View Post
    The Hydra Matic was available in Oldsmobile from 1939 and Cadillacs from 1941. Packard did not have an automatic transmission in 1941, notwithstanding the author's comment to the contrary.
    Right. The first Packard auto was the Ultramatic, which debuted for 1949. But the Clippers of the '40s did have ventilated seats!
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    I've had the Patriot as a Rental. After the refresh it is not a bad vehicle. I'm not a fan of the CVT and the 2.4L engine. If they put in the 9 speed auto and the updated 2.4L Tigershark this could be a very nice vehicle. But it won't likely live long enough to see it. The Patriot and Compass is being replaced next year by a new compact CUV based off of a heavily modified Fiat platform (Similar to the Dart platform if I recall).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechEng View Post
    I've had the Patriot as a Rental. After the refresh it is not a bad vehicle. I'm not a fan of the CVT and the 2.4L engine. If they put in the 9 speed auto and the updated 2.4L Tigershark this could be a very nice vehicle. But it won't likely live long enough to see it. The Patriot and Compass is being replaced next year by a new compact CUV based off of a heavily modified Fiat platform (Similar to the Dart platform if I recall).
    I think they decided to keep both now.
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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    They still make these?
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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    Well, the Patriot will soldier on for another year or two on the current platform according the rumors at Allpar.
    The latest scuttlebutt is that the Nissan CVT is going to be dropped in favor of the Hyundai six speed automatic,
    due to the high cost of warranty claims associated with the CVT. I'm skeptical that Jeep will invest the effort
    in a dying vehicle, but I guess we'll see.

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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    Quote Originally Posted by autoplaybook View Post
    It wasn't until American Motors, thanks to their refrigerator division Kelvinator, designed a unit that could be contained entirely underhood as an engine accessory did A/C take rates become significant.
    Nash's Weather Eye and more specifically to what we would call AC, the All Weather Eye systems pre-dated the merger of Nash-Kelvinator with Hudson. So American Motors shouldn't get credited for the system. It was all N-K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8 View Post
    Well, the Patriot will soldier on for another year or two on the current platform according the rumors at Allpar.
    The latest scuttlebutt is that the Nissan CVT is going to be dropped in favor of the Hyundai six speed automatic,
    due to the high cost of warranty claims associated with the CVT. I'm skeptical that Jeep will invest the effort
    in a dying vehicle, but I guess we'll see.
    Plus the "Cherokee" will debut in January. The Patriot (or Compass) will Died before the replacement is shown.

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    Re: 2012 Jeep Patriot: Left In The Weeds, But Okay With That

    I almost considered one of these when I was looking at a small SUV for my wife back in late '08. Almost. The interiors were as cheap as anything out there and the engines were underpowered and rough according to the car magazines. The interiors have been updated but the drivetrains are still very weak. There's a place for a good version of this vehicle on Jeep's showroom floor but until Chrysler gets competitive with its drivetrains, it'll always be an also-ran.
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    If Chrysler drops in its new 3.2L Pentastar V6 and an updated 2.4L I4 with a new transmission, they might have something here.
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