2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 pricing announced

[platosforms]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/29/2...art-at-37-995/

[E. Haskell]

Pretty expensive. The Camaro should have similar power for under $30k.

[dratnol]

I would be interested to know what the six cylinder and non hi-po V8 ones will run for. This seems high but it is also the top model.

[1931Chevy]

If they cannot get the v6 to Mustang price level this car will have a run of about 4 to 5 years at the most

[salbracht]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

Pretty expensive. The Camaro should have similar power for under $30k.

I'm not justifying the price ... I think that is a LOT of money. However, I would bet very much that to get that horsepower and options in the Camaro you are in the same ballpark for price. My bet is the V6 is in the high $20s, and the entry V8 (hp in the high 300s) in the low $30s. I would expect the high horsepower version to easily cross the $35k mark. Heck, the GTO was $35k when it left the market a year ago (which I also think was way high).

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by salbracht

I'm not justifying the price ... I think that is a LOT of money. However, I would bet very much that to get that horsepower and options in the Camaro you are in the same ballpark for price. My bet is the V6 is in the high $20s, and the entry V8 (hp in the high 300s) in the low $30s. I would expect the high horsepower version to easily cross the $35k mark. Heck, the GTO was $35k when it left the market a year ago (which I also think was way high).

Camaro V6 in the high $20s = failure.
Base Camaro V8 in the high $30s = failure.

The rules for the pony car market are quite clear: you match the pricing of the Mustang or you go home. There is no way GM sells 100,000 Camaros with prices $10-12k more than the Mustang. Won't happen.

BTW, you can't compare the GTO - It was made in Australia and shipped here. The Camaro will be made in North America.

[63GrandSport001]

Originally Posted by salbracht

I'm not justifying the price ... I think that is a LOT of money. However, I would bet very much that to get that horsepower and options in the Camaro you are in the same ballpark for price. My bet is the V6 is in the high $20s, and the entry V8 (hp in the high 300s) in the low $30s. I would expect the high horsepower version to easily cross the $35k mark. Heck, the GTO was $35k when it left the market a year ago (which I also think was way high).

We have to remember that the GTO was produced in Australia and shipped to America which fell victim to currency exchange rates. The GTO had its price dropped to $32,000 when GM did its price adjusting to get prices to be more inline with the market.

That reminds me, remember how everyone was crying because that didnt work over night but now look at what has happened?

I think its wrong when we are so fast to bash GM when something doesnt work right away but when it seems to have been a success no one seems to care anymore. How about we give GM congrats for what they have done and that they stuck with it for the long run which has resulted in success for them.

[JVal14]

Originally Posted by 1931Chevy

If they cannot get the v6 to Mustang price level this car will have a run of about 4 to 5 years at the most

I was under the impression that the Challenger would only be available with V8 power. I also think they'll have relatively limited production levels, which I'm sure Chrysler believes will help justify the price, but I don't think that will work past the first year. 38Gs is a lot of money; for that you can get a well-optioned CTS, a BMW 328, or lots of other nice cars. Obviously you're paying mostly for ponies here, but it's still a high premium. That's only $4,000 away from a Mustang GT 500 that comes with 75 more horses; and we're expecting at least 400hp from the Z28, which I highly could start over 30 grand.

I guess we don't know the level of luxury offered in the car, or it's handling capabilities, but I think expectations will be quite high for someone who can throw down around $40,000 including options and mark-ups.

[mkaresh]

Does this price include the $2,100 Gas Guzzler Tax?

Either way, the car with have six or so months of strong sales, then be dead. It's pricey, and I suspect that the market has moved on from this sort of car, thanks to gas prices and increased desire for fuel economy.

The Camaro will similarly have six strong months, maybe a few more thanks to the lower price and somewhat broader appeal.

In a few years the Mustang could again be the only one left standing. The Camaro has almost always been more stylish, but has never had nearly as broad an appeal.

[JVal14]

Originally Posted by mkaresh

Does this price include the $2,100 Gas Guzzler Tax?

Either way, the car with have six or so months of strong sales, then be dead. It's pricey, and I suspect that the market has moved on from this sort of car, thanks to gas prices and increased desire for fuel economy.

The Camaro will similarly have six strong months, maybe a few more thanks to the lower price and somewhat broader appeal.

In a few years the Mustang could again be the only one left standing. The Camaro has almost always been more stylish, but has never had nearly as broad an appeal.

I think the Camaro will do reasonably well - volume wise - due to the quality V6. It will definitely do better than the previous generation, if nothing else due to the lack of a Firebird. It depends on how willing GM is: if they put in a slick interior, good transmissions and decent content, it will be popular. We know the engines will be quality, especially if they put DI on the 3.6. Ford will no doubt improve the Mustang's powertrain choices, but they'll have to make a big jump; and they'll have to invest a lot in interior upgrades, and I'm not sure they have that in them.

[Buick61]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

Pretty expensive. The Camaro should have similar power for under $30k.

If the Camaro comes out and has 425 horsepower for less than $30,000, I'll make your first month's payment.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by Buick61

If the Camaro comes out and has 425 horsepower for less than $30,000, I'll make your first month's payment.

I said similar power - as in 400+hp. Detuned LS3 should get the job done.

Considering the speculation flying around, the Camaro should also be a few hundred pounds lighter (general rule...100lbs = 10hp).

[mkaresh]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

I said similar power - as in 400+hp. Detuned LS3 should get the job done.

Considering the speculation flying around, the Camaro should also be a few hundred pounds lighter (general rule...100lbs = 10hp).

How heavy is the Challenger, compared to the G8?

GM hasn't been known for turning out light cars lately, or ever. Though the Corvette does well in this regard.

[EldoFan]

The 1970 Challenger was 191 inches long (with a 110 inch wheelbase); the concept is 198 inches, and two inches wider than the original. Built by Metalcrafters, it weighs 4,160 pounds.

<----Taken from Allpar.com

Pontiac.com estimates the curb weights for the G8 and G8 GT to be around 3885 & 3995lbs respectively......

[mkaresh]

That's the weight of the prototype, and prototypes tend to be heavier than production cars. But it probably will be over 4,000 lbs. even so.