2007 Infiniti G35 - 306 SAE Horsepower!!!

[boblutzfan]

The bar has been set. This is what the CTS has to beat. Here is the link:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/...at-306-hp-sae/

I hope that GM can beat this. GM can not come to the part already behind the competition. The G35 is closest in size and design to the CTS - more so than the 3-series and Lexus IS330. We have already seen the G35 spy photos and press photos. Infiniti has cleaned up the styling and given it a classy interior. I just hope the CTS isn't out classed in the performance arena as well.

I know that there will be a CTS-V - but the 3.6L CTS needs to be better than the base G35. The CTS-V is and will continue to be in a completely different class due to price than the G35.

I just hope that GM doesn't let their pride get in the way of success. I can just see some engineer saying "the DI 3.6L can't have more HP than the Northstar..."

[jlt0x]

That's excellent! So...how much TORQUE does it produce?

If the engine can make 295 lb-ft of torque or better, that'll be a very good update to an already stellar powerplant.

Originally Posted by boblutzfan

The bar has been set. This is what the CTS has to beat...

...I just hope that GM doesn't let their pride get in the way of success. I can just see some engineer saying "the DI 3.6L can't have more HP than the Northstar..."

I can see that happening too. But I think the Northstar is due for a substantial update (or advancement) in output. It wouldn't be a bad idea for the Northstar to receive DI and a BiTurbo Roots-type turbocharger. And I can see DI & a BiTurbo being used on GM's LS-series engines also.

[Boiler]

I would say the bar has definitely been set, however i have always noticed that most foreign engines may have higher horsepower than domestic, but their torque figures blow! Hence, it basically evens out once the ponies hit the wheels. A cadillac with 306 HP would definitely handle the G35

[boblutzfan]

Originally Posted by Boiler

I would say the bar has definitely been set, however i have always noticed that most foreign engines may have higher horsepower than domestic, but their torque figures blow! Hence, it basically evens out once the ponies hit the wheels. A cadillac with 306 HP would definitely handle the G35

This was partly due to the fact that in many instances in the past foreign - especially Asian - powerplants had inflated HP numbers that didn't accurately correspond to the torque - what you feel when you accelerate. This new Infiniti is using an engine with certified SAE numbers. I predict the torque will be pretty good as well.

I really hope that Cadillac pulls out all the stops on their new engine - even it if has more power than the current Northstar. As was said in a previous post - it is due for a major upgrade or replacement. In 1991 it was a technological marvel... now 15 years later it is an also ran... nothing special.

[nsap]

Nice update Infiniti. Now it's actually on-par with the IS.

The new CTS should surpass that, from what I've heard. With DI the 3.6L gets well over 300 HP.

[tgagneguam]

BMW's new [255-hp] 330i was recently matched against the [306-hp] IS350. The reviewer of this reasonably respectale auto rag preferred the Bimmer for its all-around better performance. And so it would appear that consumers agree - the 3 outsells the more powerful IS quite handily.

The point is simple: horsepower isn't everything. While it'd be nice to have a 300+-hp CTS in 2008, I hope that overall the package is refined. If so, the CTS will be fine, potentially lesser horsepower notwithstanding.

[boblutzfan]

Originally Posted by tgagneguam

BMW's new [255-hp] 330i was recently matched against the [306-hp] IS350. The reviewer of this reasonably respectale auto rag preferred the Bimmer for its all-around better performance. And so it would appear that consumers agree - the 3 outsells the more powerful IS quite handily.

The point is simple: horsepower isn't everything. While it'd be nice to have a 300+-hp CTS in 2008, I hope that overall the package is refined. If so, the CTS will be fine, potentially lesser horsepower notwithstanding.

I understand what you are saying - but with the situation that GM is in - they need to pull out all the stops to change the perception that our engineering is second class. The interior needs to be class leading and the powertrain needs to be best in class - that is the only way that the car will be able to shake the stigma of being "GM Crap" in the auto mags. If you come in with less horsepower then the mags will rip it for coming to the table with less than the class leaders.

This is my problem with many of GM's efforts in the past 10 years. Their products may have been good and reliable but they were always at last years standards - always behind the pack. Even the Aura suffers from this to a certain degree as does the new GMT-900 trucks - coming out in a couple months still with a 4-speed auto? Come on... they have been working on the truck for five years and can't time the six speed with the introduction.

Gm is working hard to change the perception of lackluster engineering - but having a class leading powertrain would go a long way to convincing the masses.

[chadbarb99]

Originally Posted by nsap

Nice update Infiniti. Now it's actually on-par with the IS.

The new CTS should surpass that, from what I've heard. With DI the 3.6L gets well over 300 HP.

IT BETTER!!!

[SuperSS27]

Originally Posted by boblutzfan

I understand what you are saying - but with the situation that GM is in - they need to pull out all the stops to change the perception that our engineering is second class. The interior needs to be class leading and the powertrain needs to be best in class - that is the only way that the car will be able to shake the stigma of being "GM Crap" in the auto mags. If you come in with less horsepower then the mags will rip it for coming to the table with less than the class leaders.

This is my problem with many of GM's efforts in the past 10 years. Their products may have been good and reliable but they were always at last years standards - always behind the pack. Even the Aura suffers from this to a certain degree as does the new GMT-900 trucks - coming out in a couple months still with a 4-speed auto? Come on... they have been working on the truck for five years and can't time the six speed with the introduction.

Gm is working hard to change the perception of lackluster engineering - but having a class leading powertrain would go a long way to convincing the masses.

The reason the new GMT-900s don't have 6-speed trannies is because the production dates have been bumped up, leaving the tranny production behind a few months.

[mikesright]

The new CTS will be class-leading in every respect. Rumored hp is 310, and the spy shots of the interior (suede, man!) look extremely nice. The exterior also will be well-proportioned and handsome.

In other words, Infiniti needs to worry, not Cadillac.

[boblutzfan]

Originally Posted by mikesright

The new CTS will be class-leading in every respect. Rumored hp is 310, and the spy shots of the interior (suede, man!) look extremely nice. The exterior also will be well-proportioned and handsome.

In other words, Infiniti needs to worry, not Cadillac.

Except that Infiniti gets a first crack at the intended audience. Remember if we want conquest sales then we are really looking at many Infiniti customers... that will have already purchased their 2007 G35 when the still unknown (in terms of refinement and power) 2008 CTS debuts. I just hope enough people hold out for the CTS...

[boblutzfan]

Originally Posted by SuperSS27

The reason the new GMT-900s don't have 6-speed trannies is because the production dates have been bumped up, leaving the tranny production behind a few months.

I'll buy that for the Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban's that came out this winter/spring... but not for the trucks that go on sale this fall. Motor Trend indicated that only the Sierra Denali will get the six speed. That is unacceptable and may be enough to hold these trucks back for earning the coveted Truck of the Year award. GM dropped the ball on this one.

[CRBoyd91]

Originally Posted by mikesright

The new CTS will be class-leading in every respect. Rumored hp is 310, and the spy shots of the interior (suede, man!) look extremely nice. The exterior also will be well-proportioned and handsome.

In other words, Infiniti needs to worry, not Cadillac.

Exactly what I was about to say. Don't worry about the 3.6, it will have enough power.

[boblutzfan]

Originally Posted by CRBoyd91

Exactly what I was about to say. Don't worry about the 3.6, it will have enough power.

I hope you guys are right...

[91fairladyZ]

Originally Posted by Boiler

I would say the bar has definitely been set, however i have always noticed that most foreign engines may have higher horsepower than domestic, but their torque figures blow! Hence, it basically evens out once the ponies hit the wheels. A cadillac with 306 HP would definitely handle the G35

Yeah i tend to agree especially whe nit comes to Honda engines, but Nissan engine ususally have goo torque numbers. The last G had 258 foot pounds so it should be higher. But besides that, the G will offer a whole slew of upgrades to the enterior to bring it up to spec with the competition. Being a Nissan and GM fan I'm happy about this but, I would rather have a CTS. Come on GM step up(I'm sure you will).