2005 Acura RSX

[PaleGreen]

Acura's site has been updated with info on the freshened 2005 RSX:
http://www.acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=rsx

I'm very curious to see how the Cobalt SS Supercharged will compete with the Type-S. It's a damn shame the standard SS isn't around to take on the base RSX.



"The sports coupe segment is incredibly competitive and you have to keep improving to stay ahead of the curve," said **** Colliver, executive vice president, sales. "We've made substantial for 2005 that will keep the RSX at the top of its class."

[tgagneguam]

It's great that neat cars like the Integra/RSX have been around; they keep the lumbering giant on its toes. I've always liked the Integra/RSX, and it certainly is a great alternative to the Cobalt SS, though my loyalty remains with GM (for some odd reason).

[silverado_13]

I like it. I hope its a good competitor for the Cobalt. Good competition makes good cars.

[New_Mexico_Sunset_on_Rt66]

Although the Cobalt may be a good car, I dont' see someone considering the RSX to consider the Cobalt.

Remember it IS an Acura, and Acura's have daisies coming out of the exhaust pipes.

<_<

[SUPERBADD75]

I think the Scion tC and the revised RSX will put a big damper on the release of the Cobalt coupe--they simply offer far more features for the money. And the four-door model is going to face tough competition from the traditional leaders in that segment.

i am with you there. on top of that, the aftermarket following of Acura and Toyota is already there. the Cobalt will be coming out with little to no aftermarket support, and that's part of the draw to these compact coupes. the Scion tC is perhaps the best value out there on a small sports car, and the Acura RSX/Integra is a good value as well, and already has a large following. Cobalt will have a tough time taking customers away from those two.... and the Civic is another tough competitor.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally posted by tgagneguam@Aug 26 2004, 02:30 PM
It's great that neat cars like the Integra/RSX have been around; they keep the lumbering giant on its toes. I've always liked the Integra/RSX, and it certainly is a great alternative to the Cobalt SS, though my loyalty remains with GM (for some odd reason).

The SS has one thing going for it the RSX and Tc do not. The Ecotec has serious Tuner capabilities built into it, from conception, it was built for Tuners, from the start. You can get a lot of horses from it.

[Darc Requiem]

Yes the ECOTEC can take tons of boost. Epecially in the drag arena. I mean even with the 200lb weight handicap the ECOTEC is still dominating. The Cobalt SS has forged internals straight from the dealer......I can see tuners salvating now. :woot2:

As far as the RSX..why'd they change the headlights...why why why!? They were so cool.

Darc Requiem

[GotAWD]

Originally posted by Darc Requiem@Aug 26 2004, 10:46 AM
Yes the ECOTEC can take tons of boost. Epecially in the drag arena. I mean even with the 200lb weight handicap the ECOTEC is still dominating. The Cobalt SS has forged internals straight from the dealer......I can see tuners salvating now.

if GM Performance Division gets some air time and lets people know about what they can do with these engines, i think there can be a big boom for GM in the Compact market.

[benjamin]

Originally posted by mbukukanyau@Aug 26 2004, 03:24 PM
The SS has one thing going for it the RSX and Tc do not. The Ecotec has serious Tuner capabilities built into it, from conception, it was built for Tuners, from the start. You can get a lot of horses from it.

Er... not exactly. The Ecotec is a cool motor, but if you think they tuning market is ignoring the RSX and the tC, you're ignoring the tuning market.

The Scion tC uses the Camry motor, for which TRD is offering a supercharger.

The RSX motor, in standard or Type S form, can be supercharged (Jackson Racing), turbocharged (Revhard, among others), and modified umpteen other ways.

http://www.importtuner.com/features/0211it_thebar/

http://www.revhard.com/turbokits/rsx.html

This is allgedly a photo of a Scion tC:


taken from http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/s.../cat/6219/page/

[atomicshark]

Originally posted by mbukukanyau+Aug 26 2004, 10:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mbukukanyau @ Aug 26 2004, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tgagneguam@Aug 26 2004, 02:30 PM
It's great that neat cars like the Integra/RSX have been around; they keep the lumbering giant on its toes.&nbsp; I've always liked the Integra/RSX, and it certainly is a great alternative to the Cobalt SS, though my loyalty remains with GM (for some odd reason).

The SS has one thing going for it the RSX and Tc do not. The Ecotec has serious Tuner capabilities built into it, from conception, it was built for Tuners, from the start. You can get a lot of horses from it. [/b][/quote]
That is true about the ecotec, but the Acura's are one of the most highly tweaked tuner cars out there, right next to the Civic which it is based on.

[MalibuZ31]

Originally posted by benjamin+Aug 26 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (benjamin @ Aug 26 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mbukukanyau@Aug 26 2004, 03:24 PM
The SS has one thing going for it the RSX and Tc do not. The Ecotec has serious Tuner capabilities built into it, from conception, it was built for Tuners, from the start. You can get a lot of horses from it.

Er... not exactly. The Ecotec is a cool motor, but if you think they tuning market is ignoring the RSX and the tC, you're ignoring the tuning market.

The Scion tC uses the Camry motor, for which TRD is offering a supercharger.

The RSX motor, in standard or Type S form, can be supercharged (Jackson Racing), turbocharged (Revhard, among others), and modified umpteen other ways.

http://www.importtuner.com/features/0211it_thebar/

http://www.revhard.com/turbokits/rsx.html

This is allgedly a photo of a Scion tC:


taken from http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/s.../cat/6219/page/ [/b][/quote]
Ummm.... YOU CAN supercharge or turbocharge ANY FREAKING CAR YOU WANT TO.

They sell Vortec supercharger kits for my 4 door grandma car, so what?

If the ability to modify or tune a car makes it a "Tuner car" then everything, including a Model T is a "tuner car".

Please visit the Scion website and add the supercharger package to a base Tc. Then add all the features that come STANDARD on a Cobalt SS s/c. Which one has the real value? Thought so. Stop speaking before you know what's REALLY going on.

And if you actually DRIVE a RSX Type S or even the base model, you would know that considering it's advertised HP it is ridiculously SLOW....

And yes i've beat a hyped up "tuned" version of a RSX in my 4 door ancient 115,000 mile 3.1L OHV V-6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and then I drove the modified RSX for about 5 minutes and then begged to pull over to get back in my car. very overstated car, I know that from experience!!

[The Oatman]

The tC is no performer, and not much of a value once you start putting on the options. The RSX is a nice car overall but also not much of a performer and has a relatively high cost of ownership. We will have to wait and see how the Cobalt SS Supercharged does. Im looking forward to its release.

[monkeylizard]

Keep in mind folks, Acura is the luxury (supposedly) brand for Honda. By comparing Acura with a Chevy, you are comparing a self declared luxury brand with a well-established none luxury brand. The simple fact that these two are being compared either says that Honda is not doing something right (heaven forbid) or that Chevy is.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally posted by monkeylizard@Aug 26 2004, 04:58 PM
Keep in mind folks, Acura is the luxury (supposedly) brand for Honda.&nbsp; By comparing Acura with a Chevy, you are comparing a self declared luxury brand with a well-established none luxury brand.&nbsp; The simple fact that these two are being compared either says that Honda is not doing something right (heaven forbid) or that Chevy is.

You know you could also take a Saab 9-3 Turbo and bolt it to the Cobalt SS. They run the same motor.

So for the Tc to run a Camry Motor is really no big deal. Would you rather have a Camry or a 9-3? I would take a 9-3 anyday

[heat_fan1]

Originally posted by monkeylizard@Aug 26 2004, 04:58 PM
Keep in mind folks, Acura is the luxury (supposedly) brand for Honda. By comparing Acura with a Chevy, you are comparing a self declared luxury brand with a well-established none luxury brand. The simple fact that these two are being compared either says that Honda is not doing something right (heaven forbid) or that Chevy is.

Not true at all. The RSX is a premium sport compact car. The Cobalt SS, complete with leather and all that is also one of the premium sport compact cars. They are direct competitors, end of story. And that doesn't say more about Chevy or less of Acura.

That said, this RSX is going to be awesome and it will trounce the Cobalt! I don't know how fast or quick the Cobalt will be, but I know that the RSX-S I drove was quick! Personally, I think the RSX is much better looking inside and out than the Cobalt and it's much more refined. I would definitely expect the RSX to last a lot longer than the Cobalt as well, just because it's a Honda. Now, GM might pull a fast one and this Cobalt might be a very well built and reliable, but that's to be seen. But the RSX definitely offers more equipment than the Cobalt.

As far as the tC is concerned, I have not seen one in person nor drove one. But my brother has and he says it's a great car and it's very quick for it's engine. Again, you have Toyota reliability in there. For equipment, it doesn't have leather interior, but it does have an awesome panoramic roof standard. And of course, the price changes with the accessories you add. The TRD supercharger is not yet available, but I would expect it to be around $4,000, bringing it right around the price of the Cobalt SS plus other accessories.

Now, I don't mean to diss the Cobalt. I think it's a great car and one of the best to come out of Chevy in a long time. It's one of the many cars I'm considering as my first (yes, I'm 20 years old and haven't really had a car of my own yet). But I do know that it'll be hard to live up to a Honda or Toyota.

RSX Type-S, Cobalt SS Supercharged, and a tC TRD Supercharged should make for an AWESOME comparison test!