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Old 08-31-2008, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New Daewoo Veritas - The Park Avenue The US Can't Have!

http://www.burlappcars.com/2008/08/daewoo-veritas.html

Unbelievable! Daewoo Veritas but no Park Avenue for the home team....
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Re: So, GM won't bring Park Avenue to US but Korea gets it?!!

The G-8 exceeded any need I had for Commodore rebadges. I hope that Buick is spared.
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Boooo.

I want a Park Avenue. Just ship the Chinese Park Ave over.
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Re: So, GM won't bring Park Avenue to US but Korea gets it?!!

I sometimes wonder if GM wants to die.
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I sometimes wonder if GM wants to die.
I wonder if there's any relation between Red Ink Rick and Jack Kevorkian?? Because alot of his moves seem to point towards him assisting in GM's suicide......
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The thing looks like a Benz
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The G-8 exceeded any need I had for Commodore rebadges. I hope that Buick is spared.
That car is based on the Statesman which is the LWB Zeta sedan. The Commodore/G8 is the SWB. I understand your thinking but nothing a few styling tweaks here and there couldn't fix. Plus, have you seen the Chinese Park Ave's interior? It's better than Cadillac's US efforts!
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Re: So, GM won't bring Park Avenue to US but Korea gets it?!!

Daewoo had the last generation of this car from 2005 as the Daewoo Statesman, like the Chinese with the Buick Royaum as so this is nothing new.



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That's OK - GM US is too damaged to be able to sell this at anything like a realistic price. Despite the glowing reviews the G8 GT has received that's obviously the case with that car, too.

So it would ba a waste of time sending Caprices over there, where you guys would whinge about satnav and window buttons and go back to discount FWD boats; when there are other people in the world who will pay topdollar for them. Like the Middle East where the last and current versions were Luxury Car of the Year in 2005 and 2006, and it is the vehicle of choice for Arab police.


This is just the first 500 cars of 40,000 last year.

They get HSVs as a 'Chevrolet Special Vehicles' too. Imagine - before Pontiac gets it's GXP they get a 430hp CSV.



Enjoy your W-bodies. Holden will just keep shipping 20 or 30 thou longwheelbase luxobarges a year to where they appreciate them.
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Re: So, GM won't bring Park Avenue to US but Korea gets it?!!

Oh, for pity-sake how often do we have to re-hash this?

It's hardly news, we've known the "Chinese" Park Avenue wasn't coming to the US for a long time now. And if you look at sales figures of the G8 you can hardly blame GM? It's a years-old design now, anyway. Why would GM want to lose more money than it does importing G8's that barely sell? What would be the advantage of sellng the G8 next to the Park Avenue (since most Pontiac and Buick dealers are one and the same)? It woulld interfere with Cadillac and the last thing GM needs to do is compete with itself. Buick needs softly sprung, FWD luxury cars. The Park Avenue, as it is today, would only confuse people about Buick.
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You guys haven't been paying attention. The Chinese Park Avenue won't meet US safety specs - that was hashed and rehased, when it was announced. Even Bob Lutz has addressed this issue.
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You guys haven't been paying attention. The Chinese Park Avenue won't meet US safety specs - that was hashed and rehased, when it was announced. Even Bob Lutz has addressed this issue.
Thank you. And this is one of the reasons we won't see the Chinese Cadillac SLS here, either.
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Megeebee, the point is, if GM HAD brought the Park Ave here unmolested from the Chinese version, I'm sure plenty of luxury buyers would take notice and actually...buy it. Buick is different in perception from Pontiac, look at how successful the Enclave has been.
Roteague, GM has had may opportunities to federalize it, it is on a platform already Federalized, IE G8, Camaro. It could've been done. At one point I believe they were actually thinking about it. Yes, it's time has passed, but that still doesn't make it right Buick is saddled with the lack luster Lucern when other markets get this!
BBDOS CV8, just because Daewoo had the old version doesn't mean they Shouldn't get the new one, just means WE SHOULD get it too! The US always seems to be GM's red-headed step child as of the past couple decades. Hmmm, wonder if that has anything to do with their recent sales slump at home?....
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Megeebee, the point is, if GM HAD BBDOS CV8, just because Daewoo had the old version doesn't mean they Shouldn't get the new one, just means WE SHOULD get it too! The US always seems to be GM's red-headed step child as of the past couple decades. Hmmm, wonder if that has anything to do with their recent sales slump at home?....
But the attitude displayed in the posts by your compatriots shows why - I don't blame GM or even the dealers for blanching at the prospect of this car. They probably ran the numbers and worked out they could maybe sell them at Lacrosse prices - which aren't Caprice prices.

The US is seemingly just so used to GM being an auto Walmart they can't conceive that anything GM sells might be worth spending the asking price on.

It seems the Big 3 is on a hiding to nothing in the US. I pity them trying to sell modern up-to-date autos when their customers need to be bribed to buy cars. It locks them into a cycle of selling warmed-up leftovers like the W-bodies so they can be cheap enough to sell.
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No ****. Check it out. A legitimate Lexus ES competitor.



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Hey i've seen this show before. The car enthusiasts cry for the automaker to bring car X to the states. Then, to eveyones suprise the car flops and the automaker is left holding the bill.
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