When it Rains, it Pours: US safety regulators probe SCION Failures

[johnny smallblock]

These posts are somewhat silly. This isn't a big deal for Toyota. They're not the company of TCs or the company of 4Runners, so the recall isn't "about them." Toyota will be in trouble when they have to recall 100K Camrys.

[ponchoman49]

Originally Posted by grumbles

You guys are crapping all over glass roofs in cars now, but when the thread with the new opel with the sloping windshield was posted, everybody was crazy over it. Is it prone to shatter? I doubt it, just as much as I doubt the roof of the TC was designed to shatter into a million pieces.

So which is it, glass roof or none at all? Moon roofs shatter all the time, and glass falls on people. It happens. The same thing happens to windshields and the rest of the windows in the car too, they break, and fragments go places they shouldn't.

Is glass a safety hazard? Maybe we should eleminate it altogether, what do you guys think?

I have a better idea, lets eliminate Scion altogether as that brand is hardly needed. Toyota makes enough small cars and ugly cars that we really don't need a double whamy of it's eye sore products.

[TrailblazerSS90]

If the Scion tC glass roof is being investigated for shattering what about the: Mini Cooper; BMW X3 and X5; Mercedes R, GL and E class; Lexus ES350; Cadillac SRX; VW EOS... Not that I am saying Toyota makes absolutly the best cars on this plant but... If your gonna investigate one why not them all.... They all should be tested to see if their panoromic sun-roof shatter on occupants of the cars... They shouldn't... They should be made of the same glass that the wind sheild is crafted of... Sorry but this seems fishy to me that they are only testing the tC when they are other on the market that could possible have the same problem...

[01cavalier]

So, not just the wind deflector now. That's not good. Too bad, these are pretty nice cars.

[Old Dood]

Originally Posted by ponchoman49

I have a better idea, lets eliminate Scion altogether as that brand is hardly needed. Toyota makes enough small cars and ugly cars that we really don't need a double whamy of it's eye sore products.

Tell that to allot of younger people that truly need a inexpensive vehicle....better yet tell that to the retired older generation that are finding the xB a perfect vehicle for their needs. It will not break their bank account since allot of them are on fixed incomes.

Scion to me is like the Saturn of Toyota....you do not dicker on price...the sticker is what you get. They are not high end....but they came out with nice interiors like having a AUX jack. Even before the Toyota line. Little things add up.

[stk]

Originally Posted by TrailblazerSS90

If the Scion tC glass roof is being investigated for shattering what about the: Mini Cooper; BMW X3 and X5; Mercedes R, GL and E class; Lexus ES350; Cadillac SRX; VW EOS... Not that I am saying Toyota makes absolutly the best cars on this plant but... If your gonna investigate one why not them all.... They all should be tested to see if their panoromic sun-roof shatter on occupants of the cars... They shouldn't... They should be made of the same glass that the wind sheild is crafted of... Sorry but this seems fishy to me that they are only testing the tC when they are other on the market that could possible have the same problem...

Hum maybe cause there aren't any report of glass shatering in the other's? That could be an explanation, could it?

[TiburonJT]

Originally Posted by grumbles

You guys are crapping all over glass roofs in cars now, but when the thread with the new opel with the sloping windshield was posted, everybody was crazy over it. Is it prone to shatter? I doubt it, just as much as I doubt the roof of the TC was designed to shatter into a million pieces.

So which is it, glass roof or none at all? Moon roofs shatter all the time, and glass falls on people. It happens. The same thing happens to windshields and the rest of the windows in the car too, they break, and fragments go places they shouldn't.

Is glass a safety hazard? Maybe we should eleminate it altogether, what do you guys think?

You can't be serious.

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by stk

Hum maybe cause there aren't any report of glass shatering in the other's? That could be an explanation, could it?

See there you go again, using logic. That's just not allowed here on the internet!

[guitarlix]

Originally Posted by morepower

I never could understand or care about a glass roof on a car, looks cool but something just dint feel right, so i bought a civic ex with a moon roof instead of a scion SC, she would not go for a Saturn. This is the end for Toyota, na but it could tarnish scion, they are overpriced and they wont haggle, I hate that.

Overpriced? Not at all.

[guitarlix]

I personally think glass roofs are dumb to begin with. They're heavy, reduce structural integrity, increase c.g., promote squeakes and rattles etc.

But so many manufacturers are offering them now and customers love them so I think they're going to be a prominent feature in the future.

[smk4565]

Press will not mention it. If the Camry had a 10% chance of bursting into flames, the media would never mention it, and it would still be the top selling car.

[GMCSonoma]

Originally Posted by guitarlix

I personally think glass roofs are dumb to begin with. They're heavy, reduce structural integrity, increase c.g., promote squeakes and rattles etc.

But so many manufacturers are offering them now and customers love them so I think they're going to be a prominent feature in the future.

I agree...if I'm going to have a leaker in my roof, it should be a full convertible!

[grumbles]

Originally Posted by guitarlix

I personally think glass roofs are dumb to begin with. They're heavy, reduce structural integrity, increase c.g., promote squeakes and rattles etc.

But so many manufacturers are offering them now and customers love them so I think they're going to be a prominent feature in the future.

yep

the curb weight of the tc is incredibly inflated due to the glass roof

[PRO_USA1776]

why is it that everytime GM FORD or DCX gets negative press I see Americans pile on. When it is a vaunted asian auto company, people rush to their defense? Ever hear about rooting for the home team?

[New_Mexico_Sunset_on_Rt66]

Noone is talking about the tC's tendency for "throttle-off" oversteer. Where at it's limits, it will shift from an understeer condition to an oversteer condition. It would get the attention of any experienced, trained driver, but could be deadly to an inexperienced (young) driver.