Toyota recalls 250,000 vehicles worldwide

[gardnet1]

Although no accidents have been linked to the defect, the recall adds to Toyota's mounting quality woes as it ascends to the world's number one automaker. In the past year, Toyota has recalled over 2 million vehicles — the most in the industry.
Toyota claims the recalls are a non-issue and that they are being taken care of. "It's really not a long-term reliability issue, and it has and will continue to be addressed," said Jim Lentz, head of Toyota's U.S. division.

What arrogance! They are recalling almost as many as they are making but it's not a quality or reliability issue. Hogwash! If you count they coverup recalls as in techical service bulletins, they are pushing 5 million recalls a year and then you throw in the sludge-o-matics engines.

Looking ahead, I see the turdra being recalled at least every 90 days as they have cam issues, tailgate issues, transmission issues, torque converter issues, vibration issues and the bed shakes so much on a smooth road at highway speed, let alone a bumpy road that it won't last long. I wonder if it has the same door hinges as the sienna? The new sequioia will share most of these same poor build quality issues. The sienna has front door and sliding door safety issues (falling off) that will need recalling. Highlander is too new for the recalls to start just yet...but wait til they start making them in Mississippi (just ask nissen). Mark Phelan had a 2 foot long interior piece come off on a highlander test ride. Latest review on xD was exceptionally critical of everything about the car. It would have been mean if it weren't so true...He said the best part of the test drive was parking it! camry/avalon have issues with self destructing interior trim and worst in industry transmissions. The only redesign that they have had go smoothly (to the best of my knowledge) is the rav4.

I guess they will have to get Ford back for taking their marketing guru by stealing Fords quality guru.

Their bullet proof reputation is now riddled with hail damage and corrosion.

[impala02]

Originally Posted by AMERICA 123

While most of the recalled vehicles are in Japan, some 49,000 affected Lexus GS and IS models were sold abroad, mainly in the US, UK and Canada.

Hold on a second, this is flat out wrong. Only Toyotas that are made in the USA have problems. The vehicles manufactured in Japan are perfect.

[mkaake]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

What a bunch of hogwash. Blame the assembly workers and the fuel instead of the faulty design... High stress is a design issue. And is Toyota only now discovering that gasoline is corrosive?

Sorry, but high stress can very much be a manufacturing issue - and that doesn't mean it's the fault of the line workers either. Improper heating/cooling while bending fuel lines can cause additional stresses (or can prevent stresses from being released from the part) - same goes for many manufacturing processes - be it bending pipes or cutting metal - you can very quickly turn a good part into a bad one by mis-manufacturing, and it's very easy to not know the long term implications of something like that happening on the line. You may not even know it's happening until you've had several cars come back for the fault.

That said, I'm not saying give them a by on this one, or say it's okay - quite the opposite. But rather, this very easily could be a manufacturing defect, and I'd have no reason to assume they're lying about it, unless they revise the design for the fuel lines within the next few months.

[Olds88]

Far be it for me to defend Toyota, but maybe for some reason they aren't aware that in some areas of the US E10 is used as regular unleaded (10% ethanol, 90% gasoline) to reduce emissions. This fuel is far more corrosive than regular unleaded.

[5.3Avalanche]

Originally Posted by zete

I was lunching with some buds and cars came up, as they do when guys are downing pints, and to a one they said they'd no longer consider a Toyota because of the recent history of problems. GM they would consider, as they're willing to give GM a second chance especially due to the style the cars exhibit. They did mention Toyota has zero style and without a bulletproof reliability record there's no point buying a Toyota.

It is something I've heard quite a lot of: Toyota is a one trick pony. And if that pony's lame ...

People who follow the automotive industry news know this. But, the worst part is, the majority of people who buy Toyotas (non auto enthusiasts) probably don't know that this is going on. I've yet to see a story about Toyota's declining reputation on the news or in the paper here in Canada yet. I hope it starts soon.

[5.3Avalanche]

Originally Posted by Olds88

Far be it for me to defend Toyota, but maybe for some reason they aren't aware that in some areas of the US E10 is used as regular unleaded (10% ethanol, 90% gasoline) to reduce emissions. This fuel is far more corrosive than regular unleaded.

I think E10 is regular grade 87 fuel everywhere in Canada if I recall correctly. I don't think that percentage of ethanol should cause any damage to fuel lines.

[GMCSonoma]

Originally Posted by AkSean

AUTO RECALLS - SCOREBOARDS ALL MANUFACTURERS: 1990-2008 model cars
QTY CAR MANUFACTURERQTY CAR MANUFACTURER</B>166 ACURA Recalls34 AM GENERAL Recalls251 AUDI Recalls630 BMW Recalls232 BUICK Recalls190 CADILLAC Recalls1,806 CHEVROLET Recalls462 CHRYSLER Recalls55 DAEWOO Recalls2 DAIHATSU Recalls1,011 DODGE Recalls72 EAGLE Recalls103 FERRARI Recalls1,737 FORD Recalls44 GEO Recalls1,292 GMC Recalls527 HONDA Recalls23 HUMMER Recalls143 HYUNDAI Recalls103 INFINITI Recalls120 ISUZU Recalls135 JAGUAR Recalls318 JEEP Recalls75 KIA Recalls9 LAMBORGHINI Recalls127 LAND ROVER Recalls88 LEXUS Recalls163 LINCOLN Recalls302 MAZDA Recalls248 MERCEDES-BENZ Recalls310 MERCURY Recalls8 MINI Recalls356 MITSUBISHI Recalls399 NISSAN Recalls258 OLDSMOBILE Recalls8 PEUGEOT Recalls397 PLYMOUTH Recalls322 PONTIAC Recalls105 PORSCHE Recalls109 ROLLS ROYCE Recalls108 SAAB Recalls177 SATURN Recalls134 SUBARU Recalls93 SUZUKI Recalls401 TOYOTA Recalls298 VOLKSWAGEN Recalls271 VOLVO Recalls

Yup looks like Toyota-Lexus has to get things into gear if they are ever going to catch GM-Cadillac.

Good try..."strawman" approach as I'm often accused of here...

So by your logic, Oldsmobile & Pontiac are far supierior to Toyota given the number of recalls then???? What about Geo, considering a good third of those were Toyotas???

Yes, those Plymouth & Eagle recalls are sure affecting Chrysler today....

ooo, those bad-bad 1990 Sevilles....

[ponchoman49]

Originally Posted by eaton53

The FJ and now this.... they seem to be developing a serious crack habit at Toyota.

That makes sense because you would have to be on serious crack to style vehicles as horrible as Toyota.

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by AkSean

AUTO RECALLS - SCOREBOARDS ALL MANUFACTURERS: 1990-2008 model cars
QTY CAR MANUFACTURERQTY CAR MANUFACTURER</B>
166 ACURA Recalls
34 AM GENERAL Recalls
251 AUDI Recalls
630 BMW Recalls
232 BUICK Recalls
190 CADILLAC Recalls
1,806 CHEVROLET Recalls
462 CHRYSLER Recalls
55 DAEWOO Recalls
2 DAIHATSU Recalls
1,011 DODGE Recalls
72 EAGLE Recalls
103 FERRARI Recalls
1,737 FORD Recalls
44 GEO Recalls
1,292 GMC Recalls
527 HONDA Recalls
23 HUMMER Recalls
143 HYUNDAI Recalls
103 INFINITI Recalls
120 ISUZU Recalls
135 JAGUAR Recalls
318 JEEP Recalls
75 KIA Recalls
9 LAMBORGHINI Recalls
127 LAND ROVER Recalls
88 LEXUS Recalls
163 LINCOLN Recalls
302 MAZDA Recalls
248 MERCEDES-BENZ Recalls
310 MERCURY Recalls
8 MINI Recalls
356 MITSUBISHI Recalls
399 NISSAN Recalls
258 OLDSMOBILE Recalls
8 PEUGEOT Recalls
397 PLYMOUTH Recalls
322 PONTIAC Recalls
105 PORSCHE Recalls
109 ROLLS ROYCE Recalls
108 SAAB Recalls
177 SATURN Recalls
134 SUBARU Recalls
93 SUZUKI Recalls
401 TOYOTA Recalls
298 VOLKSWAGEN Recalls
271 VOLVO Recalls

Yup looks like Toyota-Lexus has to get things into gear if they are ever going to catch GM-Cadillac.

Not really .
There is a necc. huge discussion here on how to establish a crude kind of 'quality' pecking order in terms of recalls .
You have to do much more both qualitatively and quantitatively before any kind of useful comparisions and meaningful conclusions can be made .
Just one of the more important corrections when comparing Toyota to GM would be the need to eliminate redundant recall listings for the various brands . While this would also effect Toyota in a slightly favorable way it would radically improve GM's relative position much more .

Then there is the basic need for volume consideration in order to develop a recall rate .

To illustrate some of the above points consider that by using your flawed logic Daihatsu at 2 recalls is the obvious winner here followed by Mini and Peugoet at 8 .This would then imply that Toyota and Lexus are both hopelessly behind all three - again using your logic .

As to Cadillac vs Lexus (190 vs. 88) there are several other points to be made as well .
One , you haven't included the hundreds of campaigns , tsbs , warranty extensions , and the individual 'goodwill gestures so we can avoid something more serious stuff '. This undoubtedly would show Lexus more accurately as behind Cadillac .
Just as importantly if one were to consider both the trends over this period (1990-2008) and way more importantly the last 10 and esp the last 5 model years its pretty simple to see whose been steadily improving (Cadillac) and who has fallen off the cliff - with no landing in sight . (Lexus)

This point can be further reinforced when 'legitimate' campaigns , tsbs and etc are brought in and of course , Class Action and other legal proceedings involving esp. Toyota AND Lexus are considered .

There are also many , many , more 'raw data corrections' that need consideration here , all of which if properly performed would improve GMs relative standing vs. Toyota to a postion of current superiority .The same kind of relative improvement could be said about all the other brands esp. Ford and Chrysler .

Nobody smokes the negative numbers like Toyota just as nobody puffs the good news bigger .

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by gardnet1

It's been about a month, so they were overdue for a recall. Next up will be the sienna... again for sliding doors that launch off the rails. I'm not even sure if they fessed up on the sienna front doors were they a recall or a service bulletin?

Good point . Lets see how Toyota is handling those Sienna front doors - and their recall ......

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...all-it-a-.html

Don't Call it a Recall: Toyota to Fix 600,000 Siennas


We’re not sure how Toyota can send a mailing to owners of Sienna minivans made between 2004 and 2006 to fix faulty front doors and not call it a recall, but that’s what they’re doing. Complaints about the doors malfunctioning — swinging freely instead of stopping at a certain threshold — have circulated on the internet for some time. -


From an excellent indepth article at :

JS ONLINE: NEWS:

Toyota to cover defect

In mass mailing going out soon, company offers to pay for minivan doors with bad welds

By RICK BARRETT
rbarrett@journalsentinel.com

Posted: Oct. 23, 2007

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=678203


"We are calling it a warranty enhancement," rather than a factory recall, Kwong < Toyota factory spokesperson > said.