Toyota recalls 206,388 Corolla Versos in Europe, elsewhere

[Kheiron]

thats unfortunate for toyota and the consumers that bought those cars. I appreciate Toyotas pro-active approach to recalls though even if they shouldn't happen in the first place. At least their focus is still spot on, its all about the customer and making them happy. Short term pain equates to long term gain and unfortunately for GM fans like yourself and myself, GM is still paying dearly for that sin by the numerous people on the coasts that won't even look at GM cars much less purchase them.

[1G6]

Originally Posted by CBECK

It's only a matter of time when people realize that they should have stuck with GM, especially when GM stuck by it's customer's in time of need like the twin towers falling, WWI, WWII, and so forth. Take care of our own and when we are all set then we can help others. I am glad that Toyota is mortal after all.

Well said.

[1G6]

Originally Posted by Butz

Toyota's recalls become a weekly event! It's not funny any more it's hillarious!

And some people say there's no God!

Could we have asked for more?

Sure. But I'm pleased with what we've got.

Oh, what a feeling!

[SUPERBADD75]

Originally Posted by Mrbowtie

WOW that would mean GM's quality is just as good as Toyotas, or Toyotas quality is just as bad as GM's. Which ever way you look at it, people still believe Toyota is superior.

Or maybe people just like to drive an import and and bash anything domestic.

recalls still say exactly nothing about certain aspects of quality. for example, the plastic quality of a dashboard, or body panel gaps, or seat fabrics. GM has reliability down pretty well, and they seem to have only a resonable amount of recalls as of late, but they haven't quite climbed up to the level of some imports as far as material quality or build quality yet. there is a difference, and the reason my wife has a Honda is partially because the car is just assembled better with nicer looking (and feeling) materials and fitment. i could have gotten a V6 G6 or Malibu for a similar price with similar equipment, but i didn't like them as well.

[tgferg67]

Originally Posted by cincygoblue

I can't find it, but where are those figure showing "recall rates" for the year this year or last?), where Toyota was by far the worst and Ford was second worst? I thought that just came out in the past 3 months or so, but I can't find it and am trying to recall what the figures were. Anyone?

Those stats were using recalls related to "% of vehicles in operation".
Using this criteria is very kind to a shrinking market share(GM) and not so kind so smaller market shares in the past(Toyota). Most recalls are for vehicles a few model years old. The average median age for a car is now close to 10 years now. Comparing recall numbers of relatively new vehicles and using older vehicles in the comparison that are 10, 15 and even 20 years old is hardly accurate.

[ponchoman49]

The should recall the Yaris for causing accidents with it's putrid styling!

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Kheiron

thats unfortunate for toyota and the consumers that bought those cars. I appreciate Toyotas pro-active approach to recalls though even if they shouldn't happen in the first place. At least their focus is still spot on, its all about the customer and making them happy. Short term pain equates to long term gain and unfortunately for GM fans like yourself and myself, GM is still paying dearly for that sin by the numerous people on the coasts that won't even look at GM cars much less purchase them.

Are you sure about that? The Japanese government disagrees with you, they are investigating with Toyota officials in coverups that lead to accidents.

[Quickening]

Also you have Toyota announcing there may be a problem with the FJ Cruiser wheels, not through conventional means, but through sites like this only dedicated to the FJ...talk about shady.

[T-Type]

Originally Posted by stormwatcher

It is interesting this current trend of reporting on Toyota recalls from everywhere around the world. No one ever reports GM recalls here from Europe, Australia or Asia. Why this double standard concerning Toyota? Let's stick to reporting recalls on vehicles in North America.

I find your post hugely offensive. If you find an article on a GM recall anywhere, post it in the "Suggest a News Article" forum and it will be placed in the appropriate forum. GM bad news is not swept under the rug here. This is GM Inside News and ALL GM news is discussed here good or bad.

[Steel4ring]

Well....the first step to dealing with your problems is admitting it......on to the next 11 steps for Toyota.

[1G6]

Originally Posted by T-Type

I find your post hugely offensive. If you find an article on a GM recall anywhere, post it in the "Suggest a News Article" forum and it will be placed in the appropriate forum. GM bad news is not swept under the rug here. This is GM Inside News and ALL GM news is discussed here good or bad.

Don't feed the trolls/Level I Members.

[Lewie]

this must put them over 2.5 million vehicles for the year

[cincygoblue]

Originally Posted by tgferg67

Those stats were using recalls related to "% of vehicles in operation".
Using this criteria is very kind to a shrinking market share(GM) and not so kind so smaller market shares in the past(Toyota). Most recalls are for vehicles a few model years old. The average median age for a car is now close to 10 years now. Comparing recall numbers of relatively new vehicles and using older vehicles in the comparison that are 10, 15 and even 20 years old is hardly accurate.

I didn't recall that. Not that I don't believe you, but it's not how I remember it. That's why I asked. Link?

[Kheiron]

Originally Posted by Butz

Are you sure about that? The Japanese government disagrees with you, they are investigating with Toyota officials in coverups that lead to accidents.

I'm just going off this article and their NA track record. Any problem they had with any Lexus when the brand was launched was delt with swiftly and promptly. The other recalls I've read about over the past year, they have seemed to take care of in a short amount of time. What they have done in their home turf, I don't know about, but just going off of what I know, its better to be too safe than risk it and be sorry.

[stormwatcher]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stormwatcher
It is interesting this current trend of reporting on Toyota recalls from everywhere around the world. No one ever reports GM recalls here from Europe, Australia or Asia. Why this double standard concerning Toyota? Let's stick to reporting recalls on vehicles in North America.

Originally Posted by T-Type

I find your post hugely offensive. If you find an article on a GM recall anywhere, post it in the "Suggest a News Article" forum and it will be placed in the appropriate forum. GM bad news is not swept under the rug here. This is GM Inside News and ALL GM news is discussed here good or bad.

Offended? Why?

I don't want to read about Opel and Holden and GM China recalls on this site and I doubt other posters do either. But because other posters often complain about a media bias against GM, I don't think that excuses the bias that is beginning to show on this site by attempting to portray a competitor (Toyo) unfairly either.

As it should, this site mostly reports GM US news and only GM US recalls, so in the interests of having a more honest debate about vehicle quality and the number of recalls, reporting only US vehicles recalled would be more accurate and lead to an unbiased discussion which benefits all members here.