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Old 01-07-2008, 11:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

Holden have spent alot of money trying to elevate the brands image so yet another recall is disappointing for the brand, Hopefully they rectify the problem quickly and have less problems in the future...

This same problem occurred 12 months ago with V8 models - Why were the V6's not checked to see if they too had an inherent design problem?
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:27 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

probably should also mention the fuel and brake line supplier for the VE was a new one, the company in USA and GM were having issues (things were fine in australia) Don't think their contract will be very safe now!
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

This is a safety related re-call only, that's all.

Holden, as the good corporate citizen, has decided to initiate this re-call as a preventative measure, to rectify a "potential" fuel line from rubbing up against parts that "could" cause it to rupture, and then "possibly" cause a fire, however, even though there have been no reported cases of this.

I applaud Holden for taking this step and putting the customers safety first, instead of covering it up like some other car manufacturers have done in the past.

I feel safe in the knowledge that at least Holden are looking out for my safety.

What is your car manufacturer doing, sweeping it under the carpet in the hope you won't one day burn to death in a fire-ball on the freeway ?



Re-calls in Australia are increasingly being seen as a positive for a company.

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Old 01-08-2008, 04:00 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

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No, it just shows Holden is far from world class, they had to have my car in 3 times to fix a power steering leak, not good enough mate!
Isn't that more an issue of poor quality dealer servicing (assuming it was a dealer)?

Out of the 2 Holdens I've owned since new I've had no quality/reliability issues or recalls - great low-maintenance vehicles. My Toyota Prado, however, had 2 recalls IIRC as well as some significant quality issues apparent straight off the dealer lot.

ALL manufactures are affected by recalls.
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ALL manufactures are affected by recalls.

true, some forms of media just like to emphasise when ever certain manufacturers have them

some other current recalls, within the last 3 months
http://dynamic.dotars.gov.au/recalls/index.asp

Ford Fiesta & Transit:
The accessory drive belt may delaminate and fail, Power steering will be lost and the engine overheat.

Volvo XC90:
unknown

Mitsubishi Outlander:
The accessory carpet mat may block the accelerator from returning properly, The vehicle may continue to accellerate unexpectedly after full pedal travel has been used.

Mitsubishi Pajero:
Incorrect nuts may be fitted to the front RH drive shaft and front and rear propeller shafts. The nuts may then loosen in operation. If the joint fails the drive will be lost.

Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8, Jeep Commander, Dodge Nitro, Jeep Wrangler:
The Electronic Brake Control system (EBC) when coasting uphill may momentarily delay application of the brakes. The vehicle may experience longer stopping distances

Proton Savvy:
The rear wheel bearing may fail and cause the rear axle to snap, If the axle breaks the rear wheel will come off the car.

Peugeot 206, 307:
The engine temperature sensor may crack and leak, The engine may overheat and coolant contamination may affect engine operation.

and i found it quite odd that none of these made it to the news either

Honda Legend:
The power steering feed hose may crack and leak due to high temperatures, Low fluid will cause heavy steering and fluid leaking onto the hot exhaust may smoke and in the worst case cause a fire

Lexus IS250, GS300:
Two fuel pipes on the engine may crack and leak, Fire may occur if leaking fuel contacts an ignition source.

Ford Falcon:
LPG tanks fitted to certain BFII models may have a service valve hand tap that may fail, causing LPG to leak from the hand tap spindle, possible fire risk

The O ring seal on the LPG tank hand tap spindle may be undersized and could leak (listed as a separate recall)

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true, some forms of media just like to emphasise when ever certain manufacturers have them

some other current recalls, within the last 3 months
http://dynamic.dotars.gov.au/recalls/index.asp

Ford Fiesta & Transit:
The accessory drive belt may delaminate and fail, Power steering will be lost and the engine overheat.

Volvo XC90:
unknown

Mitsubishi Outlander:
The accessory carpet mat may block the accelerator from returning properly, The vehicle may continue to accellerate unexpectedly after full pedal travel has been used.

Mitsubishi Pajero:
Incorrect nuts may be fitted to the front RH drive shaft and front and rear propeller shafts. The nuts may then loosen in operation. If the joint fails the drive will be lost.

Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8, Jeep Commander, Dodge Nitro, Jeep Wrangler:
The Electronic Brake Control system (EBC) when coasting uphill may momentarily delay application of the brakes. The vehicle may experience longer stopping distances

Proton Savvy:
The rear wheel bearing may fail and cause the rear axle to snap, If the axle breaks the rear wheel will come off the car.

Peugeot 206, 307:
The engine temperature sensor may crack and leak, The engine may overheat and coolant contamination may affect engine operation.

and i found it quite odd that none of these made it to the news either

Honda Legend:
The power steering feed hose may crack and leak due to high temperatures, Low fluid will cause heavy steering and fluid leaking onto the hot exhaust may smoke and in the worst case cause a fire

Lexus IS250, GS300:
Two fuel pipes on the engine may crack and leak, Fire may occur if leaking fuel contacts an ignition source.

Ford Falcon:
LPG tanks fitted to certain BFII models may have a service valve hand tap that may fail, causing LPG to leak from the hand tap spindle, possible fire risk

The O ring seal on the LPG tank hand tap spindle may be undersized and could leak (listed as a separate recall)

EXACTLY, WHY HASN'T THESE MADE THE NEWS HEADLINE?

Also Toyota's TRD Aurion with its exploding engine was never recalled.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

Recalls for 2007

Citroen – 1
Renault - 1
Kia - 1
Jaguar - 1
Bentley - 1
Land Rover - 1
BMW - 1
Lexus – 1
Volkswagen - 1
Maserati - 1
Suzuki - 1
Audi - 2
Alfa Romeo - 2
Citroën – 2
Hyundai – 2
Fiat - 3
Mazda - 4
Peugeot - 4
Holden - 5
Toyota - 6
Volvo - 7
Mitsubishi - 7
Chrysler - 8
Honda – 9
Ford - 10
Mercedes-Benz - 13
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

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Mitsubishi Outlander:
The accessory carpet mat may block the accelerator from returning properly, The vehicle may continue to accellerate unexpectedly after full pedal travel has been used.


Better show this one to the missus JoeT. Looks like you have your alibi

...oops, wasn't supposed to bring that up.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:41 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Also Toyota's TRD Aurion with its exploding engine was never recalled.
You have to sell one to recall one

Also, it was shocking to see that Toyota also beat Holden at recalls. They are untouchable I tells ya!
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:14 AM   #25 (permalink)
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the real scary thing is the amount of recalls i seen when searching were for trucks! not just utes or pick-ups, but big ones!
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:30 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Better show this one to the missus JoeT. Looks like you have your alibi

...oops, wasn't supposed to bring that up.
To late for that now.

Would have been nice of Mitsutoshi to tell us about this little problem. That can mean only one thing - they're trying to kill us!!!!
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

When you think of the complexity of a car it is a tribute to them that there are not more. Just for a moment look at the different operating systems that are used within the engine management, instrument cluster, ABS, HVAC etc -just getting them to "talk" to each other is hard enough but to do it without faults is amazing - well I am glad Microsoft dont make cars!Have a look at the "recalls" Boeing and Airbus do (called safety alerts" They fix them in the field. I dont think the car industry does a bad job at all.
If you have bought a new house how many things were wrong with it that you either fixed yourself or didnt bother -probably more than three which see ms to make a car a lemon!
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:55 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Recall: 86,000 Holden Commodore's Recalled To Fix Potential Fuel Leak

I'm a motor mechanic (and yes I can spell) and have worked in Holden dealerships. Recalls are a part of automotive life that effects even the best (such as Lexus). The general public love nothing more than a recall to get the tongues wagging - the news is celebrated very much like when a famous 'nice married couple' break up with a scandal. A fuel line that has the potential of wearing through is a serious thing, no doubt. But no way is it a result of poor quality. I would put it down to incomplete interpretation of the engineers instructions given to assemble the components in the effected areas. Assemblying cars is incredibly complex and it does not take much for methods to evolve in the wrong direction. Consistent quality control should see stamp out such things as listed, but ultimately normal everyday driving would reveal the truth. I've inspected a used VE Commodore for a buyer and let me say that I was very impressed with the build quality, specially seeing that it was an early build model. But don't take my word for it. When the car hits your land give it a good look over. For quality it's no Lexus, but it's as least as good as the current locally built Camry. Check it out, and if you don't like it walk away!
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Just a question. How the hell did 2.5L Iron Duke appear under my sign on name Club327?
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Just a question. How the hell did 2.5L Iron Duke appear under my sign on name Club327?

It's to do with how many posts you've made. The more posts you make, the bigger your engine becomes.
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