NHTSA Investigation into CSV Headlight Failures

[hammy233]

NHTSA Investigation
Just heard on the news that the NHTSA is investigating a possible defect on the GM quadruplets regarding a possible electrical defect that could cause the headlights to fail unexpectedly. No recall yet, but with all the flickering lights reported , it probably isn't far behind. This affects the Relays as well as the Terrazas, SV6s, and Uplanders.

[Infiniti Z350]

It's pretty dang quiet in this thread...

[CarShark]

Well...seeing as no one here likes or cares about the so-called "sport vans", it's no shock to me. When an import has a recall next, they'll be back to get their jollies.

[hammy233]

NHTSA Probes Windshield Wiper and Headlight Problem in Some GM Models

December 5, 2005
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has launched a preliminary safety investigation of the Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana SV, Saturn Relay and Buick Terraza because of a flaw that could cause the headlights to go out.

All of the vehicles in the investigation are from the 2005 model year.

NHTSA has received information that the actuating bar of the windshield wipers might cause damage or even cut a wiring harness that results in loss of the headlights.

In a related problem, General Motors issued a bulletin to dealers on February 21, 2005 warning that the wiper motor crank arm could contact an under-the-hood electrical center and "Some customers may report a stall and the no start condition after the wipers are used."

[ragingfish]

Originally Posted by hammy233

NHTSA Investigation
Just heard on the news that the NHTSA is investigating a possible defect on the GM quadruplets regarding a possible electrical defect that could cause the headlights to fail unexpectedly. No recall yet, but with all the flickering lights reported , it probably isn't far behind. This affects the Relays as well as the Terrazas, SV6s, and Uplanders.

So if they do a recall, this affects what, 5 people?

[1999 White C5 Coupe]

Originally Posted by hammy233

NHTSA Probes Windshield Wiper and Headlight Problem in Some GM Models

December 5, 2005
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has launched a preliminary safety investigation of the Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana SV, Saturn Relay and Buick Terraza because of a flaw that could cause the headlights to go out.

All of the vehicles in the investigation are from the 2005 model year.

NHTSA has received information that the actuating bar of the windshield wipers might cause damage or even cut a wiring harness that results in loss of the headlights.

In a related problem, General Motors issued a bulletin to dealers on February 21, 2005 warning that the wiper motor crank arm could contact an under-the-hood electrical center and "Some customers may report a stall and the no start condition after the wipers are used."

GM still can't figure out how to build a vehicle without having a moving part damage a wiring harness / electrical pack? Sad.

[paul3230]

Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe

GM still can't figure out how to build a vehicle without having a moving part damage a wiring harness / electrical pack? Sad.

I agree! How long have we been building trucks/cars GM???

[FamilyTruckster]

Funny stuff people. But on a serious note it won't be so fun for me when customers start bringing the vans in. They sold very well for us this year.

One customer has already had his in for blinking headlights. He was driving one night and cars kept pulling over in front of him. He's not a happy camper.

P.S. I know the uplander won't win any beauty contests but that picture makes it look even worse.

[Elk]

GM should recall the vans NOW letting stuff like this go is what got GM where they are now.

[Butz]

That's a shame

[FamilyTruckster]

Originally Posted by hammy233

NHTSA Probes Windshield Wiper and Headlight Problem in Some GM Models

December 5, 2005
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has launched a preliminary safety investigation of the Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana SV, Saturn Relay and Buick Terraza because of a flaw that could cause the headlights to go out.

All of the vehicles in the investigation are from the 2005 model year.

NHTSA has received information that the actuating bar of the windshield wipers might cause damage or even cut a wiring harness that results in loss of the headlights.

In a related problem, General Motors issued a bulletin to dealers on February 21, 2005 warning that the wiper motor crank arm could contact an under-the-hood electrical center and "Some customers may report a stall and the no start condition after the wipers are used."

NO, You misunderstood me. I do not find it funny that you have a problem with your vehicle. However, some of the other members comments were funny. ( 5 vans )You have a right to be frustrated. I would be as well.

[2000GTPBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Elk

GM should recall the vans NOW letting stuff like this go is what got GM where they are now.

So every time ONE person has a problem GM should recall the cars? Because that is what this is. Regardless of how the press makes it sound and the name of this thread, the NHTSA investigation notice says that have received one complaint. The cars have been out for over a year.

[hammy233]

I`m sure there is more than one complaint....I`ve been back to the dealership with my second "CSV" more times than I care to admit, 5 alternators 1 PCM, 2 radios 2 DVD`s, 2 set of headlights lens`s.....etc. i have the Canada Transportation equivilant to NHTSA involved as well as my lawyers now....ironically I got a call from GM Head office the day this news broke....hmm?

[2000GTPBROTHER]

NHTSA Action Number : PE05063 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
BUICK / TERRAZA 2005

CHEVROLET / UPLANDER 2005

PONTIAC / MONTANA SV6 2005

SATURN / RELAY 2005

Manufacturer : GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
Component :
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:FRONT UNDERHOOD

Date Investigation Opened : November 29, 2005
Date Investigation Closed : Open
Summary:
THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION RECEIVED A REPORT FROM THE OWNER OF A 2005 CHEVROLET UPLANDER INDICATING THE "ACTUATING BAR" OF THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS CAUSED DAMAGE TO A WIRING HARNESS. SEVEN OF THE WIRES IN THE HARNESS WERE CUT, RESULTING IN A LOSS OF HEADLIGHTS. ON FEBRUARY 21, 2005, GENERAL MOTORS ISSUED A BULLETIN TO DEALERS RELATING TO THE WIPER MOTOR CRANK ARM CONTACTING THE UNDERHOOD BUSSED ELECTRICAL CENTER (UBEC) HARNESS. THE BULLETIN STATES "SOME CUSTOMERS MAY REPORT A STALL AND/OR NO CRANK, NO START CONDITION AFTER THE WIPERS ARE USED." THE VEHICLES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE BULLETIN ARE THE 2005 MODEL YEAR BUICK TERRAZA, CHEVROLET UPLANDER, PONTIAC MONTANA SV6 AND THE SATURN RELAY. ODI HAS OPENED A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION TO INVESTIGATE THIS ISSUE.

"RECEIVED A REPORT ", one.

[2000GTPBROTHER]

Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe

GM still can't figure out how to build a vehicle without having a moving part damage a wiring harness / electrical pack? Sad.

It happens.

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
TOYOTA / TACOMA 2005

Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 05V302000 Recall Date : JUN 27, 2005
Component: AIR BAGS
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 11592
Summary:
ON CERTAIN REGULAR CAB PICKUP TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH A BENCH SEAT, THE SEAT POSITION AND SEAT BELT BUCKLE SENSOR CONNECTOR PINS ARE INCORRECTLY POSITIONED DUE TO A WIRE HARNESS MANUFACTURING PROCESS ERROR.