NHTSA to investigate GM SUV fires

[SDRacing]

Originally Posted by VCDJ

This is what happens when you speed up development of these suv's. Of course you will get some poor quality. Why does anybody buy any vehicle in their first year. You know you are going to have some kind of problem with it. If you do not have anything to tow i do not see why would anybody buy tahoe over acadia.

ONE of the most idiotic, thoughtless posts Ive ever read.

[mike's 01ws6]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

I want a 2009 Tahoe LTZ, becouse of bluetooth

Maybe it will come with a spellchecker too, lol.

[tgagneguam]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

[url="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UNOD3G0&show_article=1"]...Buy all the foreign oil you want...

I never quite understood why these folks continue to threaten either directly or indirectly through their actions to make oil more expensive/less attractive and thereby encourage the development of alternative fuel sources. Sort of like when Ahmadinejad was saber rattling about $200/barrel oil. Go ahead. It would be painful in the short-term, for sure, but I'm fairly certain it would also make a whole lot of people speed up alternative fuel source development. In a sense, it would isolate those same countries whose economies rely heavily on the black stuff.

[TruckMan]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Tahoes are for sissy yanks. If you want real towing power and a man-sized truck, and don't care about a couple of MPG, get a real truck.


Seriously, when was the last time you towed more than 4,500 pounds (Acadia's capacity) but less than 6,500 pounds (the capacity of half of the Tahoe models)? And when was the last time you had 7 people plus luggage in your Tahoe?

Now how often do you put $75 worth of Venezuelan gasoline in your Tahoe? Yes, that is why people buy Acadias.

My point was that the Acadia and Tahoe (not considering people's tastes in comfort and style) are approximately the same price, but you get a little more value for your money with the Tahoe (performance, size, etc). If that truck was approximately the same price, then yes, it would be the better vehicle.

If you want to use your arguement, how many people drive around in 4 door/5 passenger car with no passengers or cargo in their trunks? So I assume you think they should only be driving mopeds and rent a car whenever they need to carry more people around? That's what you and VDCJ are insinuating.

[HoosierRon]

Originally Posted by TruckMan

My point was that the Acadia and Tahoe (not considering people's tastes in comfort and style) are approximately the same price, but you get a little more value for your money with the Tahoe (performance, size, etc). If that truck was approximately the same price, then yes, it would be the better vehicle.

If you want to use your arguement, how many people drive around in 4 door/5 passenger car with no passengers or cargo in their trunks? So I assume you think they should only be driving mopeds and rent a car whenever they need to carry more people around? That's what you and VDCJ are insinuating.

So you're not diggin' the Kenworth?

[TruckMan]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Wouldn't it make much more sense to buy a fuel efficient vehicle to use 358 days per year, and rent a Tahoe (or an RV) for your 7 day vacation? I realize some people think that is a bad idea, but at the end of the day, it strikes me as very wasteful to buy a gas guzzler so that a family of four can go on a vacation in comfort. But tis is America. Buy all the foreign oil you want.

And don't 6' tall people fit in the second row of an Acadia? I'm 6'3", and I did not have any problem getting in an Outlook.

If you drive 15000 miles a year, and drive a 30mpg vehicle, you'll spend $1500 dollars a year on $3 gas. You'll spend $2250 driving a 20mpg vehicle. That's a difference of $750 - about what it would cost you to rent an SUV for a week. Drive less miles or buy cheaper gas, and the "savings" dwindles even more. So, no, I don't see the point.

Drive what makes you happy and is most convenient to you, just don't force your opinions and beliefs on everybody else. Let us make our own decisions.

[TruckMan]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

So you're not diggin' the Kenworth?

I like it. I just don't think it would fit in my garage or parking spot at work. And the wife would need a booster seat for sure.

[blank disk]

Originally Posted by Saturn69

If nobody ever bought a first-year car, we'd all be driving horses still. Get a grip. 2 out of 432,000 is nothing.

It certainly is something, to those who were affected by their vehicle burning.

[gardnet1]

Two friggin Jamaican hippies, a bale of dope and they have to recall the whole fleet.

[casket_demon]

Originally Posted by tholland

So you tell us... what happened? What did they overlook?

You don't have a friggin clue, do you?

Was the Tundra rushed 2 market?

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by blank disk

It certainly is something, to those who were affected by their vehicle burning.

YAAH MON - I TOOLD THEM ABOUT THE KEROSENE SPACE HEATER ......AND NOT TO USE IT FOR A LIGHTER ...

[jzEllis]

Originally Posted by lightbrotha2004

So umm yeah people buy Acadias and I'm not bashing them because I like them but for some families they are not practical as is with mine when there are at least four 6' plus people in a vehicle at any one time.

hmmm, thats interesting, cus i've been in the back seat of all 3 of the new GM cross overs, and when it comes to people carrying, they beat the new tahoe/yukon hands down! way more 2nd row leg room by far than the yukon/tahoe twins. and the 2nd row seats slide back and forth and recline.

not bashing you just sayin...

[GMCdriver]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Wouldn't it make much more sense to buy a fuel efficient vehicle to use 358 days per year, and rent a Tahoe (or an RV) for your 7 day vacation? I realize some people think that is a bad idea, but at the end of the day, it strikes me as very wasteful to buy a gas guzzler so that a family of four can go on a vacation in comfort. But tis is America. Buy all the foreign oil you want.

And don't 6' tall people fit in the second row of an Acadia? I'm 6'3", and I did not have any problem getting in an Outlook.

You know what I find really frustrating is how many people I see driving around all by themselves in a Civic or a Prius just to commute to and from work when a small motorcycle or a moped could get the job done fine and they could rent a giant vehicle like a Civic for the few times a year when they actually need to carry more then one other person.
And don't get me started about the wasteful SOBs who ride their motorcycles up the same streets that bus routes travel, don't they realize that if they are taking the same road, then they should just get a bus pass and not waste fuel on their own vehicle. They could just rent something for the few times they need to go someplace that is more then a few blocks away from a bus route.

See the problem with drawing a line in the sand for what you feel other people need is that you may not be the ultimate decider in the end and you might not like where someone else draws the line for you when they have the power to decide what "you really need."

But really, this is all a little and a subject for another thread.

[LAMRONH]

Originally Posted by coaster.n3rd

I put in a call to my dad for you. He works in Powertrain, I thought he could use your expertise in helping GM figure this out.

Your exalted public service will soon be recognized. --fortune cookie

[LAMRONH]

Originally Posted by GMCdriver

You know what I find really frustrating is how many people I see driving around all by themselves in a Civic or a Prius just to commute to and from work when a small motorcycle or a moped could get the job done fine and they could rent a giant vehicle like a Civic for the few times a year when they actually need to carry more then one other person.
And don't get me started about the wasteful SOBs who ride their motorcycles up the same streets that bus routes travel, don't they realize that if they are taking the same road, then they should just get a bus pass and not waste fuel on their own vehicle. They could just rent something for the few times they need to go someplace that is more then a few blocks away from a bus route.

See the problem with drawing a line in the sand for what you feel other people need is that you may not be the ultimate decider in the end and you might not like where someone else draws the line for you when they have the power to decide what "you really need."

But really, this is all a little and a subject for another thread.

I am forwarding this to The Decisionator at 1600 Transylvania Avenue, Worshington DC 00707.