Honda recalls 353K Accord sedans

[steve333]

Originally Posted by impala02

Complain all you want about GM, but do realize that the other companies you mentioned above have problems too. See GMI member Minnesota Nice's complaints about the transmission on his Civic. Then do a search for similar complaints about the Honda transmission. It's well documented, but guess what? Honda doesn't acknowledge it.

On to the faulty steering components: guess who else has customers that have had the dreaded steering clunk on their cars and trucks, often on low mileage vehicles? If you guessed Toyota, you are correct. Do a google search, you'll be amazed. While annoying, the clunk from both the Toyota and GM intermediate steering shafts pose no safety threat. The parts won't fail, they just develop an annoying clunk. Funny, one of the fixes I've seen on a Toyo forum is the same as the one I performed on my GM: just get a can of spray grease and inject it into the shaft. Problem solved. I agree, these problems shouldn't happen, but they do. You just need to realize that GM owners are not the only one that this happens to.

The dealer greased the steering on my mothers Impala because even after the replacement it started clunking again. Didn't work. Now we have to go back there to have it replaced again, along with the steering column.

Sorry, off topic. I will stop with this subject.

[Minnesota Nice]

Originally Posted by steve333

The dealer greased the steering on my mothers Impala because even after the replacement it started clunking again. Didn't work. Now we have to go back there to have it replaced again, along with the steering column.

Sorry, off topic. I will stop with this subject.

Sorry, it's just hard for me to have sympathy for anyone else's warranty problems. It took me over twenty (yes, 2-0) separate visits to several different dealerships in order for me to get my third gear issues replicated.

I stopped counting how many wasted days that cost me. You can only hear "Could not duplicate/replicate." so many times before you want to drive a Hummer into the Honda dealership while doing a native war call.

But seriously. Twenty times? Even after they did duplicate it (it happens to me everytime I drive the car), I had to wait several months for this damn fix to come out. I feel even worse for the old Accord V6 owners and RSX-S owners who have the same problem but have waited YEARS and YEARS for this.

And here's Honda, going "We swear...we've never heard of this before."

My fat American ass.

[96_impala_ss]

Originally Posted by blank disk

This is not minor, are you kidding me.
Can you imagine if you are driving on the highway and your wipers quit working - you are efffed.

imagine driving a Honda and the transmission goes out on you. you are F U C (hopefully yall get ma drift)

wipers < transmission.

Honda... good engines.. crap transmissions on 99 and up civics and accords.

[eurohazard]

Originally Posted by 96_impala_ss

imagine driving a Honda and the transmission goes out on you. you are F U C (hopefully yall get ma drift)

wipers < transmission.

Honda... good engines.. crap transmissions on 99 and up civics and accords.

Well, I see where you coming from...being how the transmission is much more important than wipers. However these are manual transmission cars that were being discussed.....all you do is pop it back in gear, or chose 4th gear or 2nd gear. You're not that F'd. Does it suck?, and would I be pissed if it were my car?....heck yes. But it's not like the brakes will lock up and cause a crash.

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by scotted73

You can add the airbag issues (faulty install, delayed reaction, malfunctions, tearing, sensor failure, wiring problems) that have affected the Odyssey, CRV, Accord and RL over the last eight years.

Don't forget the sliding doors, the interior trim pieces that break or fall off,

the ABS problems (older), and the two stepper front wheel bearings.

[Johnny P]

Originally Posted by 96_impala_ss

imagine driving a Honda and the transmission goes out on you. you are F U C (hopefully yall get ma drift)

wipers < transmission.

Honda... good engines.. crap transmissions on 99 and up civics and accords.

Actually, it's mostly '00 through '01 and '06-'08. Only '06 and up Si's, '00-01 Accord's and Odyssey's. The recall for the '02 and '03 models was pretty insignificant.

Most Honda autos are covered to 109k or more. They have extended the warranty on a bunch of them.

[Minnesota Nice]

Johnny, I've known quite a few members who've had 5MT issues on their non-Si Civics (2006+), too though. Locking out of reverse, grinding, refusing engagment, stuff like that.

If I got another Honda, it'd sure as hell not be a stick shift. Which is a shame.

[manray]

Originally Posted by Ambalanche

minor, but still yet another sign of cracks in the armor from the land of the rising sun!

Yes, what a relief! Now, people will see Honda for the crap it is and flock to the superior vehicles of GM .........if they're still around in a year.

GM needs to find 15 billion to keep their heads above water, and you're reveling in possible corrosion in a Honda windshield wiper motor?

[Minnesota Nice]

Originally Posted by manray

Yes, what a relief! Now, people will see Honda for the crap it is and flock to the superior vehicles of GM .........if they're still around in a year.

GM needs to find 15 billion to keep their heads above water, and you're reveling in possible corrosion in a Honda windshield wiper motor?

For some reaosn I think the transmission issue in the Civic Si is more signs of "cracking" than wiper motors. But that is nothing new...this transmission issue has been around for 7 years or more, but Honda refused to do anything about it until people threatened class actions and media attention.

After the first news report went out on it...the bulletin came out a month later. Interesting. Corrupt *******s.

[Johnny P]

Originally Posted by Minnesota Nice

After the first news report went out on it...the bulletin came out a month later. Interesting. Corrupt *******s.

It takes much longer than a month to produce TSB. Especially one that involves such a high number of vehicles.

Not making excuses.

[psece]

Originally Posted by eurohazard

Well, I see where you coming from...being how the transmission is much more important than wipers. However these are manual transmission cars that were being discussed.....all you do is pop it back in gear, or chose 4th gear or 2nd gear. You're not that F'd. Does it suck?, and would I be pissed if it were my car?....heck yes. But it's not like the brakes will lock up and cause a crash.

I would hate to be taking a Freeway cloverleaf on ramp in the rain and have a transmission pop out. You ever been in a front drive car on a turn and lose power? Back end loves to go hunting at that point.

[Johnny P]

Originally Posted by psece

I would hate to be taking a Freeway cloverleaf on ramp in the rain and have a transmission pop out. You ever been in a front drive car on a turn and lose power? Back end loves to go hunting at that point.

Only if you're going too fast and if the alignment is correct that won't happen.

[eurohazard]

Originally Posted by psece

I would hate to be taking a Freeway cloverleaf on ramp in the rain and have a transmission pop out. You ever been in a front drive car on a turn and lose power? Back end loves to go hunting at that point.

Why not add snow into the mix, and bald tires?

I love driving fast, as much, or more so than the next guy. But rain and cloverleafs aren't the best time to be practicing Michael Schumaker moves. I'd care to venture that normal driving in those conditions while in 3rd gear, and the gear pops out.....one would be just fine.

[Minnesota Nice]

Originally Posted by Johnny P

It takes much longer than a month to produce TSB. Especially one that involves such a high number of vehicles.

Not making excuses.

This has been going on for seven years, and even after the bulletin came out, Honda (of America) claimed they had "never heard of it".

[psece]

Originally Posted by eurohazard

Why not add snow into the mix, and bald tires?

I love driving fast, as much, or more so than the next guy. But rain and cloverleafs aren't the best time to be practicing Michael Schumaker moves. I'd care to venture that normal driving in those conditions while in 3rd gear, and the gear pops out.....one would be just fine.

Originally Posted by Johnny P

Only if you're going too fast and if the alignment is correct that won't happen.

It doesn't take any speed at all. It just has to be an abrupt power change and the car will get squirly. I have driven front wheel drive cars my whole life. They don't react well to power transitions. You can talk all you want about bald tires, snow and other BS, but if the driver isn't expecting it, it is a safety issue.