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Old 10-04-2007, 03:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Chrysler recalls 77,233 Sebring convertibles, Avengers

The Avenger in our work parking lot should be recalled for horribly inconsistent body panel gaps.

I didn't realize the Avenger had AWD as an option either.
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The Avenger is a nice (even kinda cool) looking car but Chryslers quality has not been up to par for decades. a decent product here and there but over all been crap.
Currently the Avenger is the vehicle that would be first on my list if I were looking for a new car. Based on it's looks anyway.

Very little out there excites me at the moment (Charger, 300, Avenger, Aura are about the only ones I'm that interested in). The new Malibu is nice, as is the upcoming G8, but they're not available right this moment.

So I'll continue to drive my '05 put put Aveo 'til the new Camaro comes out.
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At least it isn't GM. Chrysler has a long way to go when it comes to quality. Will be interesting to see if the new owners of Chrysler totally redesign these vehicles.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:35 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Chrysler recalls 77,233 Sebring convertibles, Avengers

Are some of you even listening to yourselves?

First of all, where are the repost posts? This recall was announced months ago and I know I've seen it here before. Second, its a recall for a door lock and a fuel tank strap, not for the car splitting in half as some have made it sound. Yes, it COULD be serious, but alot of recalls COULD cause this and that horrible thing and most end in saying something like "no serious injuries have been reported". Third, and most important, hasn't GM had more than just a few recalls including ones relating to safety? Reading through this thread, one would think GM is the perfect car company and Chrysler can do nothing correctly because it had a recall. I won't bother with the links, just do a search for GM recalls and see what pops up.

I love my GMC, but one recall was for the anti-lock brakes failing and it happened to my truck. In fact I know of several people it happened to, and probably to many on this site. It's pretty neat, when the SAFETY device fails, the vehicle defaults to a dangerous condition where the anti-lock brakes kick in on dry roads just as you slow down. I thought I was going to end up in the ditch across the street from my house the one day.

I am in no way trying to knock GM, but talk about people living in glass houses and throwing stones.
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:05 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Are some of you even listening to yourselves?

its a recall for a door lock and a fuel tank strap, not for the car splitting in half as some have made it sound. Yes, it COULD be serious, but alot of recalls COULD cause this and that horrible thing and most end in saying something like "no serious injuries have been reported".
Yes , your right, So what if you get thrown out of your car in an accident and get flambeaued/ struck with the gas tank.........no biggie,no need to make a big deal of this?

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Third, and most important, hasn't GM had more than just a few recalls including ones relating to safety? Reading through this thread, one would think GM is the perfect car company and Chrysler can do nothing correctly because it had a recall.
I don't believe anyone was saying that! Lets not get carried away pal. everybody on this site knows there isn't one company out there that is perfect. And don't fool yourself ,this is hardly just "A" recall. It is quite serious.
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one recall was for the anti-lock brakes failing and it happened to my truck. In fact I know of several people it happened to, and probably to many on this site. .
Yep, I am one of them. They notified me, they removed the carbon buildup from the sensor and it has been fine ever sense
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It's pretty neat, when the SAFETY device fails, the vehicle defaults to a dangerous condition where the anti-lock brakes kick in on dry roads just as you slow down. I thought I was going to end up in the ditch across the street from my house the one day..
Sounds like you need to slow down a bit buddy, you might hurt youself , you should be more careful!
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:09 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Are some of you even listening to yourselves?

First of all, where are the repost posts? This recall was announced months ago and I know I've seen it here before. Second, its a recall for a door lock and a fuel tank strap, not for the car splitting in half as some have made it sound. Yes, it COULD be serious, but alot of recalls COULD cause this and that horrible thing and most end in saying something like "no serious injuries have been reported". Third, and most important, hasn't GM had more than just a few recalls including ones relating to safety? Reading through this thread, one would think GM is the perfect car company and Chrysler can do nothing correctly because it had a recall. I won't bother with the links, just do a search for GM recalls and see what pops up.
I have to agree with you, this is getting way out of hand. If this was a GM recall people would be downplaying the recall. I also get a kick out of the 14 postage stamp post. Would you say the same thing if the Impala had a recall?

We are all on the same side and need to support our NA car companies. This thread has accomplished nothing except for mindless bashing of Chrysler.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:19 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I have to agree with you, this is getting way out of hand. If this was a GM recall people would be downplaying the recall. I also get a kick out of the 14 postage stamp post. Would you say the same thing if the Impala had a recall?

We are all on the same side and need to support our NA car companies. This thread has accomplished nothing except for mindless bashing of Chrysler.
Actually it was only 4 and like I said before , no one here is saying GM is perfect. This thread is about the Avenger and the Sebring.......not the Impala, Camry ,Accord or any other make. THAT is why we are talking about the Avenger and Sebring. Go to a thread about a GM recall and you will read all of the GM critics you want, and rightly so. Any recall needs to be taken seriously and THAT is why it gets discussed. You dont like it , take your ball and go home. I like alot of Chrysler designs but when it comes to quality they are lacking in some areas just like GM,Toyota Ford, Honda, Kia or any other manufacturer.
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:44 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Yes , your right, So what if you get thrown out of your car in an accident and get flambeaued/ struck with the gas tank.........no biggie,no need to make a big deal of this?
I doubt even one person has been thrown out of their car and started on fire. What is this, a Hollywood production? And Chrysler is making a big deal out of it, it is being recalled and corrected.


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I don't believe anyone was saying that! Lets not get carried away pal. everybody on this site knows there isn't one company out there that is perfect. And don't fool yourself ,this is hardly just "A" recall. It is quite serious.
I'm not the one getting 'carried away', I'm simply saying this is no worse than anything GM has recalled, but you wouldn't know it by some of the posts on here.

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Yep, I am one of them. They notified me, they removed the carbon buildup from the sensor and it has been fine ever sense

Sounds like you need to slow down a bit buddy, you might hurt youself , you should be more careful!
Then you know that I don't need to slow down since it generally happens under 10 miles an hour. However, I turn toward the opposite side of the road (where the ditch is) to back into my driveway. That is just one of the times it happened. A co-worker was so afraid of his that he disconnected the anti-lock brakes to make it safe. Another friend did the same.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:09 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I have to agree with you, this is getting way out of hand. If this was a GM recall people would be downplaying the recall. I also get a kick out of the 14 postage stamp post. Would you say the same thing if the Impala had a recall?

We are all on the same side and need to support our NA car companies. This thread has accomplished nothing except for mindless bashing of Chrysler.
And why would we downplay it if it was a GM recall? Well that's apparent, because losers like to UPLAY and totally blow out of porportion GM recalls.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:35 PM   #40 (permalink)
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good thing chrysler made that lifetime guarantee people are going to need it if the recalls and the quality in general arethis bad
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good thing chrysler made that lifetime guarantee people are going to need it if the recalls and the quality in general arethis bad
Thats only for the powertrain, I don't think these recalls apply to to the warranty since they are not related with the engine or transmission.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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true your probably right but still what a conincidence that chrysler made this new lifetime guarantee and here we are with 2 major recalls
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To me it shows they have faith in the powertrain but not faith in the vehicle its attached to. If they had total faith they would give the customer a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty.
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