Another Toyota Recall!

[mw3538]

Originally Posted by sigma

^It won't.

Front page of CNN online.

[SnapOversteer]

Small children shouldn't be sitting in the front seat anyway. The Tundra has a LATCH system in its rear seats. Use those.

Children are safer in the rear seats anyways, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

[Canyonaro]

Originally Posted by SnapOversteer

Small children shouldn't be sitting in the front seat anyway. The Tundra has a LATCH system in its rear seats. Use those.

Children are safer in the rear seats anyways, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

They sure should, I think the reason why people are dumbfounded with Toyota is that they disregarded the NHTSA initially and didn't put the switch or LATCH system in the truck as they were supposed to do. This is America, we have regulations whether they are wise or not, but must be followed. Making an excuse that it wouldn't work with the engineering of the vehicle initially is irresponsible (much like having children in the front seat whereas they should be in the back like you said).

[Strapping.Young.Lad]

Originally Posted by GM-Joe

That's "moving forward" face first into the windshield!

[Old Dood]

Originally Posted by SnapOversteer

Small children shouldn't be sitting in the front seat anyway. The Tundra has a LATCH system in its rear seats. Use those.

Children are safer in the rear seats anyways, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

I always put our kids in the rear seat...the middle rear seat. Started doing that back in 1985 with our first born. I am more concerned with the actual child car seat then I am with the vehicle they ride in. Many of the car seats for children are not up to snuff. I do not care what kind of vehicle you have...I would never let my children sit in the front while in a car seat. That is just dumb. They are allot more protected in the middle of the back seats.

[Hey Now]

Momentarily taking the focus off of Toyota...

Originally Posted by Tiger

At the time the regulation was adopted, 600 children under the age of 5 were killed every year in auto crashes and another 70,000 were injured.

Is that true? Wow..........

[plane]

Originally Posted by Infiniti Z350

That doesn't make any sense. They aren't turning off the airbags.

You're right.
It's only the little children that will die in Toyota vehicles.
Everyone else is quite safe.

[CACressida]

Whats dumb to me is all the dumb vehicle regulations. There should be a law that if you have a rear seat, your kid should be there. And if toyota wants to delete the switch, why don't they just snip the wires to that lil switch? I bet you most of the ppl who own these trucks for buisness use like garage door installers and stuff like that wont care for the recall and ignore it.


Then again, i'd rather have that switch so just incase i do get in an accident, I only replace one airbag lol. Then again, if I can buy a car my way, I'd eliminate airbags period.

[SnapOversteer]

Originally Posted by Canyonaro

They sure should, I think the reason why people are dumbfounded with Toyota is that they disregarded the NHTSA initially and didn't put the switch or LATCH system in the truck as they were supposed to do.

The problem is with the front seat. Toyota didn't install the LATCH system in the front seat because of "engineering" problems. The switch turns off the airbags when a LATCH device is installed in the front seat. Because Toyota didn't install a LATCH system in the front seat, they're requiring Toyota to either install such a system in the front seat, or let the airbags deploy when a small child is sitting in the seat.

The system employed in the Tundra disables the front passenger airbag when a small child or someone weighing less than 50 or so pounds sits in the front seat. The NHSTA found this unacceptable since a car seat could not be installed to protect a small child, so they're now relying on the airbag to protect the child when they modify these switches.

The airbag will also deploy with no one in the passenger seat, which will drive up insurance costs. That's great.

[CrunkedRL]

Yeah!!! go Toyo go!!!

[1931Chevy]

It seems that Toyota really want the number one spot on everything, biggest car maker , most profitable car maker, more recalls car maker ****************

[mw3538]

Toyota's totally bizarre recall
Why would Toyota issue a recall designed to make vehicles less safe?
By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer
July 12 2006: 3:22 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- This fall, Toyota will voluntarily recall nearly 160,000 Toyota Tundra pickups so that they can be made less safe for children riding in the front seat.

No, that's not a mistake - at least not on our part.

The recall, announced Monday, is meant to make Tundras comply with a set of safety regulations. The rules say that vehicles built after 2002 must have a child-seat anchor system known as LATCH in the front seat if they also have a front-seat airbag shut-off switch.

The Tundras in question were built with an airbag shut-off switch but not the LATCH system.

The solution? Spend lots of money and inconvenience customers...to remove the airbag shut-off switch.

The move not only doesn't enhance the safety of these vehicles, it actually makes the vehicles unsafe for small children riding in the front seat.

Those shut-off switches exist because airbags can injure and even kill small children even in otherwise minor crashes.

Meanwhile, even without a LATCH system (which stands for lower anchorages and tethers for children), parents can still install safety seats using seatbelts.

Toyota originally discovered the compliance issue and, in a letter to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) in July 2005, the company asked regulators to let them to ignore it as "inconsequential to safety."

NHTSA denied that petition. So Toyota asked NHTSA to reconsider, arguing that the solution would be worse than the problem.

"[We] believe that the agency should understand that the likely remedy is to remove the airbag cut-off switches," Toyota lawyers wrote to NHTSA in October of 2005.

Toyota has no other choice, Chris Tinto, Toyota's vice president for regulatory affairs, told CNNMoney.com. Placing the LATCH system in the trucks' front seats would have been far too expensive.

"We still think it's better with the cut-off switches in," said Tinto said. But rules are rules, so it's out with the switches.

What's more, to comply with the rule, Toyota is currently building new Tundra trucks without the switches, Tinto said.

[nsap]

Alright folks, if you CANNOT POST A LEGIT POST, DON'T POST. Discuss the recall, not about the pro or anti-Toyota crap. It's seriously gotten old.

Anyone who posts something stupid will be banned from the thread.