3500 V-6 Recall

wpbharry · 08-17-2005, 05:44 AM

Posters in Edmund's are reporting that GM is recalling a run of 2005 Malibus/Maxxes/G6s and CSVs with the 3500 V-6. The harmonic balancer needs to be replaced (wish I knew what a harmonic balancer was). In one case, the Buick Terraza in question needed a new engine, which GM has offered to replace free. The recall was apparently received by affected owners in the mail this past week.

W.A.F.U. · 08-17-2005, 08:03 AM

Harmonic balancer is the crankshaft pulley. Things can go bad quick when the balancer is not working right.

big swede · 08-17-2005, 12:53 PM

I'm not really sold yet on these 60 degree V6's. The 60degree family has caused a lot of people to leave GM for good so I hope they will get the situation fixed quickly. Hopefully the upper intake gasket problem has been addressed because just about anyone I know that has has a V6 from this family has had an expensive leak there at least once in the lifetime of that engine.

**GMCSonoma** · 08-17-2005, 01:24 PM

Engine Harmonic Balancer Not Seated #05548B - (Aug 2, 2005)

Just recently issued.

mplin · 08-17-2005, 01:43 PM

I just received my recall notice a few days ago.

mplin · 08-17-2005, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big swede

I'm not really sold yet on these 60 degree V6's. The 60degree family has caused a lot of people to leave GM for good so I hope they will get the situation fixed quickly. Hopefully the upper intake gasket problem has been addressed because just about anyone I know that has has a V6 from this family has had an expensive leak there at least once in the lifetime of that engine.

My family has owned 2 vehicles with the 3400 V6 and I have a 05 G6 with the 3500 V6. So far the engines have been trouble free. The highest mileage was a Olds minivan that had 45k miles on it. It was totaled in front of the house by a driver who fell asleep at the wheel in the middle of the night.

ROOSTER · 08-17-2005, 01:53 PM

correction for thye recall is to retorque the harmonic balancer

rob2299usa · 08-17-2005, 01:54 PM

Problems with a harmonic balancer not seating properly has nothing to do with the fact that it is part of the 60 degree engine family. That's like engine descimination or something

uvaeeman · 08-17-2005, 02:27 PM

My 3800 V6 Bonneville had the upper intake manifold fail at 70k miles. I was (and still am) soooooo mad about that. The total bill was like $1100. I'm still a GM Fan, but I am very disappointed that it died and was never recalled. :-(

01cavalier · 08-17-2005, 02:32 PM

From what I understand,the manifolds are of a different design, and the failures in the 3.1/3.4/3.8 shouldnt be happening in the 3.5/3.9

mkaake · 08-17-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uvaeeman

My 3800 V6 Bonneville had the upper intake manifold fail at 70k miles. I was (and still am) soooooo mad about that. The total bill was like $1100. I'm still a GM Fan, but I am very disappointed that it died and was never recalled. :-(

ouch. it only costs about 200 to fix on your own.

regardless, it's something gm should have fixed a long time ago.

did you replace the lower intake gaskets when you did it?

Buicktech · 08-17-2005, 02:48 PM

It is a really easy recall! (Thank God!) All I do is remove the fly wheel inspection shield, two bolts, and put my flywheel tool in there so it wont move. Then you torque the balencer bolt to 100 or so (cant remember on vacation last two weeks) lbs/ft and voila! All done! No biggie, plus the bolt is only off about 10lbs /ft anyway.

W.A.F.U. · 08-17-2005, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big swede

I'm not really sold yet on these 60 degree V6's. The 60degree family has caused a lot of people to leave GM for good so I hope they will get the situation fixed quickly. Hopefully the upper intake gasket problem has been addressed because just about anyone I know that has has a V6 from this family has had an expensive leak there at least once in the lifetime of that engine.

The intake manifold leaks are caused by the gasket design not the engine. The 3.8 and 5.7 also have intake manifold leaks.

Prior to the 3.1 becoming the 3100, It was not a common thing to have a leak in the intake.

ViperDVMan · 08-17-2005, 03:01 PM

Sounds like a manufacturing flaw to me.....some joker at the plant (or machine, whichever does that phase of the assembly) didn't torque a nut down correctly. I would hardly blame the 60° HV V6 engines for this recall.

the 3500 and 3900 seem to be decent engines. Don't blame the engine for a manufacturing flaw.

Mike The Canadian · 08-17-2005, 03:17 PM

Never had a problem with my 3100 yet..
how do I know if its having a manifold gasket leak?

08-17-2005, 05:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
wpbharry 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Drives: '04 Malibu Maxx LS Posts: 1,765	3500 V-6 Recall Posters in Edmund's are reporting that GM is recalling a run of 2005 Malibus/Maxxes/G6s and CSVs with the 3500 V-6. The harmonic balancer needs to be replaced (wish I knew what a harmonic balancer was). In one case, the Buick Terraza in question needed a new engine, which GM has offered to replace free. The recall was apparently received by affected owners in the mail this past week. __________________ 2004 Chevy Malibu Maxx LS, Light Driftwood, All Options Except 6-Disc & Rear DVD

08-17-2005, 08:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
W.A.F.U. 3.6 Liter V6 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Drives: 2006 Pontiac G5 GT. Posts: 1,095	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall Harmonic balancer is the crankshaft pulley. Things can go bad quick when the balancer is not working right.

08-17-2005, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
big swede 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Midwest Drives: 07' Monte Carlo SS Posts: 4,097	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall I'm not really sold yet on these 60 degree V6's. The 60degree family has caused a lot of people to leave GM for good so I hope they will get the situation fixed quickly. Hopefully the upper intake gasket problem has been addressed because just about anyone I know that has has a V6 from this family has had an expensive leak there at least once in the lifetime of that engine. __________________ 07' SS Monte

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08-17-2005, 01:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
ROOSTER 1.8 Liter ECOTEC Join Date: Dec 2004 Drives: 1977 PONTIAC ACADIAN 2001 PONTIAC SUNFIRE Posts: 50	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall correction for thye recall is to retorque the harmonic balancer

08-17-2005, 01:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
rob2299usa 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Metro-Detroit, MI Posts: 192	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall Problems with a harmonic balancer not seating properly has nothing to do with the fact that it is part of the 60 degree engine family. That's like engine descimination or something

08-17-2005, 02:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
uvaeeman 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Drives: 1998 White Bonneville SE Posts: 295	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall My 3800 V6 Bonneville had the upper intake manifold fail at 70k miles. I was (and still am) soooooo mad about that. The total bill was like $1100. I'm still a GM Fan, but I am very disappointed that it died and was never recalled. :-(

08-17-2005, 02:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
01cavalier 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, OR Drives: 2007 Cobalt Posts: 4,818	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall From what I understand,the manifolds are of a different design, and the failures in the 3.1/3.4/3.8 shouldnt be happening in the 3.5/3.9

08-17-2005, 02:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Buicktech 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON/Daytona Beach, FL Drives: 2000 Regal Posts: 2,186	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall It is a really easy recall! (Thank God!) All I do is remove the fly wheel inspection shield, two bolts, and put my flywheel tool in there so it wont move. Then you torque the balencer bolt to 100 or so (cant remember on vacation last two weeks) lbs/ft and voila! All done! No biggie, plus the bolt is only off about 10lbs /ft anyway. __________________ 2000 Buick Regal Last edited by Buicktech : 08-17-2005 at 02:51 PM.

08-17-2005, 03:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
ViperDVMan 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central Florida Drives: 1991 Pontiac Grand Am LE Posts: 566	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall Sounds like a manufacturing flaw to me.....some joker at the plant (or machine, whichever does that phase of the assembly) didn't torque a nut down correctly. I would hardly blame the 60° HV V6 engines for this recall. the 3500 and 3900 seem to be decent engines. Don't blame the engine for a manufacturing flaw. __________________ Y2V: Certified Car Nut '91 Pontiac Grand Am LE - to receive engine swap soon The Next Camaro:Coming to a Chevy dealer near you

08-17-2005, 03:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mike The Canadian 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 290	Re: 3500 V-6 Recall Never had a problem with my 3100 yet.. how do I know if its having a manifold gasket leak? __________________

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