They aren't gonna sell 30k a year. No way no how.
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They aren't gonna sell 30k a year. No way no how.
Handling will go to the SS for sure. Bone stock I got a 13.7 with our G8 GT, I can see a 13.3 with CAI and exhaust and a good launch.
Exactly. So many people in these SS sedan threads have unrealistic expectations on just about everything. Sales numbers, weight, price and so on.
Here are some realistic predictions I believe. If GM comes in under any of these people can be mildly surprised instead of being disappointed when they don't.
PRICE: $42,995 with GG tax $43,990 with destination for a NO option SS sedan
WEIGHT: It is going to weigh the same as the GXP did. 4050 pounds or something in that vicinity. Even with the lighter hood and trunk. All those extra electronics have MASS. Especially wiring. Copper wire adds up. Electronics and gizmos add up. HUD unit adds weight, sensors add weight. Larger rear wheels and tires add weight. Whatever was saved with the aluminum hood and trunk will be made up for these things I mentioned.
SALES NUMBERS: 5 to 7 thousand a year and that might be pushing it. Anything more will be gravy. For the first 6 months sales will be low. October, November, December, January, February and March are NOT the prime months for RWD performance vehicles.
Thinking it will sell in the upper 30's, sell 30K a year and weigh 200 pounds less than a G8 GXP does nothing but set a person up for disappointment.
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bballr4567 (02-17-2013),tripowergto (02-18-2013)
Anyone thinking less than $40K is delusional. I'm predicting $44,995, just a bit under the Charger SRT since it will have a HP deficit compared to it.
Orbit Orange (02-17-2013)
Current Cars:
2010 Black Impala SS(my baby)
2009 Gold Yukon Denali(wife drives it)
2010 Black Hummer H3 Alpha(for my off-roading pleasure)
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The Caddy Flagship
C7 Corvette
ATS 2.0T AWD Black exterior/Red interior(For my twins)
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DirtyMoney (02-20-2013)
Although I am not impressed by the SS, I am honest enough to say that a base price of 40K - 45K is reasonable. Anyone thinking that it will cost less than the G8 GXP is on drugs, and not good ones. It's going to be at least that much and probably a little more. 35K - 40K just ain't happening. I just wish the SS brought more than bread and butter to the table. There's nothing special about it.
What 5 speed? It either had the 6 speed manual or 6 speed auto. I have a 6 speed manual. The MSRP was 39k and change. I get 24-25 mpg on the highway and 16-18 around town which is better mileage than I got with my 2005 GTO which didn't have a GG tax. Go figure. This car is basically a GXP with more content on the inside.
Just because it is a limited edition in the USA doesn't mean it should be more $$ than the Dodge equivalents. It needs to offer something more than them to command a higher price. Otherwise, except for the engine and a few mods, the SS is also a mass produced vehicle in other parts of the world.
Don't get me wrong, the SS is dynamically a better car than anuthing at ChryCo.
However, it is more powerful than an R/T and 300C, less powerful than the SRT8's, and will likely cost more than both.
Will the SS sell out? Yes, but only because they are bringing only a handful. This car is a giant middle finger to anyone who was awaiting for an affordable Chevy sport sedan.
Jo Momma
The 04-06 GTO was about $33k IIRC, this should be priced in that same range. This isn't an SRT8 equivalent either. It's short about 60 HP. I don't agree with leather being standard, some people don't want it. Charge extra for the leather package and start the car at $33,990.
2010 BMW 528xi
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T
2007 Chevrolet HHR 2LT
It does not matter if I like it or what it cost, it is out of my price range. The big question is, is some one else willing to pluck down 45k for a chevy sedan( SS or not), if they could buy a BMW 3 series, entry MB or other entry level LUX car for the same or less, and get the status of that, rather than a chevy.
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$45k can buy you:
Any SRT8
Cadillac ATS Premium
Pretty much everything in the compact exec class.
Nicely loades Taurus SHO.
2 used G8 GT's (ill take one)
Jo Momma
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To some of those there are some strong counters...
To the ATS premium you get more space and a V-8 engine (with 415BHP)
To the SHO you get a more prem. chassis with RWD and a 415BHP V-8 engine
To the two G8s you get a brand new car that is up a few notches in every way (BTW you would compare the SS to the G8 GXP).
The only real counter would be the SRT8 Challenger.
usa1 (02-17-2013)
Who knows I guess GM will find out soon enough. But I will tell you one thing the Canadian pricing on this is going to shock people, just given GM Canada's history.![]()
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