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Re: How GM Can Keep up With Japan's Next Big Weapon: Planned Obsolescence
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Re: How GM Can Keep up With Japan's Next Big Weapon: Planned Obsolescence
Great article, Ming. I loved it. Good insight.
All GM needs to do is follow that and it's golden. I think of it as "continuous evolution". I like it. ![]() |
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Re: How GM Can Keep up With Japan's Next Big Weapon: Planned Obsolescence
There seem to be several trends within our society at present which should affect the car market. Of course we will always have a segment of society who want, and can afford, or at least finance, the latest gadget-laden vehicles. But, with the middle class shrinking as a percent of total population, and the higher-than-inflation increases in major expenses like energy and medical care, will the segment of the population that can afford a new vehicle, with the latest goodies, shrink? If so, they'll be buying used stuff or simpler and cheaper cars. Of course this will be a ready-made market for the Chinese, etc. manufacturers. Also, cars are very expensive to fix. I suppose this is partially a function of reducing manufacturing (assembly) cost by putting more pieces into modules that can be made off shore then plunked into the final product in a fraction of the time needed to install several parts separately. So this might make used cars less popular and give more people incentive to consider a cheaper car produced off shore. So, all together, I'd think there will be some incentive to produce simpler cars for longer periods as a means of reducing cost and improving the reliability that the customer gets for that cost.
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Re: How GM Can Keep up With Japan's Next Big Weapon: Planned Obsolescence
You know? I'm really sick of this fascination with Japan. I've read all the books.
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Re: How GM Can Keep up With Japan's Next Big Weapon: Planned Obsolescence
This discussion brings to mind the '55, '56, '57, and '58 Chevys. There were significant changes in styling from '55 to '56, a much more significant change for '57, then a complete interior and exterior re-design for 1958. GM was also very busy with Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile, and Cadillac during the same timeframe. As a company, they seem to have forgotten most of what they once knew so well.
I won't violate the copyrights by cutting and pasting the images, but here are some nice photos to ilustrate this: 1955: http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-19...e-White-FA.htm 1956: http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-19...Blue-White.htm 1957: http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-19...top-Red-FA.htm 1958: http://www.seriouswheels.com/1950-19...le-Aqua-po.htm Last edited by FStephenMasek : 04-15-2006 at 03:17 PM. |
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i think it's just that they had a LOT of money back then. |
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Keep writing your articles here Ming, they are one of the best things on GMI. |
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The same thing with styling, performance, etc. In fact, I think it's part of the reason GM rolls out their vehicles slowly. Get a G6 coupe last year? Well now that you've seen the G6 convertible, you might have to sell the coupe and get a new car. Like the CTS you bought 3 years ago? Well now you can get a CTS-V. Etc, etc, etc. Why bring all the models out at once, when you can't support production of all of them while ramping up? Unfortunately, GM doesn't do enough of this, adding features, redoing interiors, adding gotta-have styling touches. I'm worried about cars like the Cobalt, HHR, G6. Hope GM has a plan to touch them up soon. Toyota may run into a problem with their planned-obsolecense of the Prius. They're talking too much. They're already talking that the nextgen Prius could get over 100mpg. Anyone considering one, might want to wait before buying this version, because Prius3.0 will be out soon. Besides, why spend a $5000 premium now to save $500 a year in gas, when you can spend a $6000 premium next year to save $800 a year in gas?
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