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Old 05-06-2007, 05:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

My girlfriend love that car in that color. Tanks for all the explanations.
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

This would kick Camrys ugly butt.

But we have heard time and time again about the costs of building bigger cars means bigger profits. (and Im sure there are people in Holden, who remember the thought process behind the original "small" Commodore - and the mistake it turned out to be)

I would be lining up now if I knew this was coming, but why launch Epica if this had any chance of coming. Viva/Astra, Epica/Torana all these cars have to have spare parts support (for memory in OZ its legislated at ten years) and that would be very expensive.

Why launch Torana as a high end Aurion/Camry competitor and get little to no volume out of it like the last Vectra with its tend grand price rise.

I was hoping Epica kept getting delayed because Holden had a HUGE surprise up its sleave but that was just wishful thinking like the idea that the VZ cars are making way for Torana.

I hope Im wrong.

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Old 05-06-2007, 08:17 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I love this car, i do hope they build it...
I agree it was a cgreat concept and they have had a few years to start doing some work under the radar I hope!

Maybe GM is finally get it right with the Alpha class!
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

Get rid of the Milan, Montego, Mountaineer, and Fusion headlights, and I'll be happy.
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Definitely a sweet looking concept.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:47 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Any chance Thailand? GM factory & FTA with Oz.
Nice thought. Considering the next mid sized pickups are being designed in Brazil maybe they will be assembled there for export as well.
If Holden, etc pick these up as replacements for the Isuzu D-Max (Holden Rodeo), then the GM-Thai plant will need something to build.
The plant is in a good central location to export 'Alpha' around the world and has a proven record of quality assembly.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:51 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

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This would kick Camrys ugly butt.

But we have heard time and time again about the costs of building bigger cars means bigger profits. (and Im sure there are people in Holden, who remember the thought process behind the original "small" Commodore - and the mistake it turned out to be)

I would be lining up now if I knew this was coming, but why launch Epica if this had any chance of coming. Viva/Astra, Epica/Torana all these cars have to have spare parts support (for memory in OZ its legislated at ten years) and that would be very expensive.

Why launch Torana as a high end Aurion/Camry competitor and get little to no volume out of it like the last Vectra with its tend grand price rise.

I was hoping Epica kept getting delayed because Holden had a HUGE surprise up its sleave but that was just wishful thinking like the idea that the VZ cars are making way for Torana.

I hope Im wrong.

Whilst the Epica is surely a stop gap, I think its market is something that will remain filled by a fwd econobox (its actually quite nice for what it is). Just because Oz may be getting an Alpha doesn't necessarily mean it will wear the Lions badge. *hint* Cadillac is apparently coming soon. This would be much easier to market than a 50K shrunken Commodore and would remove the threat of Commodore sales losses. I would be surprised if the Alpha is aimed at Camry buyers. As BBDOS CV8 hinted earlier, 6MPS and therefore Liberty et. al should be in the crosshairs.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:16 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

Beautiful sport sedan styling. Hatchback versatility. Why doesn't GM (Holden or Chevy/Pontiac/Saturn) build this for us?

I think it would be a hit. It is a wonderful alternative to the Camry, Accord, Altima, Mazda6, G6, Fusion or Milan.
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

The concept looks realy great especialy the front end, but the back would look better if the taillights continued on to the trunk, couse i'm missing something in this picture:
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

Really is a great looking car but if given the green light I wouldn't expect to see it before 2020.
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

Awesome write-up, man! I wasn't following GM as closely when the Torana was first shown, and barely knew anything about Holden at the time, so I found it very informative. I didn't even know that it was a hatchback!

For something that was so far from production at the time that it was originally shown, it certainly is a practical concept car. They could put almost every feature in this car into a production model with almost no modifications. I really hope we do get to see this car in the real world.
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:15 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

I've thought this car was rediculously awesome since it appeared a while back. If Pontiac could replace the G6 with this car anytime soon (although before 2010 is probably impossible) their new slogan could be:
All Your Customer Are Belong To Us!
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

I can't get over how AWESOME this car looks!!

Though I don't like the whole hatchback idea.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: GMI Concept of the Month: Holden Torana TT36

What it isn't. I'll tell you what it is. It's better looking than anything GM has in the states right now or in the future
Is there something in the water that makes great designers in Australia. Does GM have to send their US design staff to Australia to get a clue
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