The Definitive GM Performance Car List 1986-2006

[Ming]

Originally Posted by F14CRAZY

Gran Turismo needs a Reatta. Then I'll buy it

You think like I do.

Too bad Gran Turismo is developed in Japan. They work the Prius, Element, and obscure non-performance trim 1980's japanese econocars in there for extensive lists of cars from Toyota, Honda and Nissan (Honda City comes to mind - and I don't think it was even a "Type R") - but hardly can find space for more than 2-3 cars from brands like Pontiac - and one of them is usually an obligatory 30 year old muscle car. My point was, even if they don't use a fraction of the cars on this list, they still have a heck of a lot to choose from - and more than they give us currently!

What's even more inexcuseable is Microsoft's Forza Motorsport, developed here in the U.S. (?) - adding the Toyota Corolla Trueno Sprinter from the 1980's, and again with the rather limited lineup from GM - at least with anything non-Camaro/Corvette from the 1980's and 1990's.

[F14CRAZY]

Need to add the early 90s W-body 4 door Grand Prix STE

[DuSpinnst]

I'll be posting my Saab pics in the Shootout thread once I get it!

[Ming]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

I'll be posting my Saab pics in the Shootout thread once I get it!

Looking forward to it!

[87aero]

Well it's been awhile since much action has been seen in this thread, but I wanted to comment on it. I think it's really cool to have a list of the cool stuff that the General has created which we don't really know about. And apparently a lot of people outisde of GMi think so too, because several times now I have come across this truly "definitive" list posted on another website or forum such as this forum has done:

http://www.tuningnews.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=241

There are a lot of people who share Ming's thinking when this list was created by him. Anyways, I think it'd be cool if we (cough, Ming, cough, cough) started the pre-86 list, as suggested, and included all post-muscle offerings up to 1985. I know that "post-muscle car" and "performance car" are oxymorons, but I'd say we exclude muscle cars because everybody already knows about LS6's and Yenkos and such, but fewer people know about Chevy IMSA Monza race cars, or Pontiac Sunbird Formulas.

I know it's quite an undertaking, probably taking a couple hours before a base list is available to member suggestion, but I think with a little effort that we members could easily get the ball rolling with a "Definitive GM Performance Car List: Post-Muscle - 1985". I know I already have a lot of suggestions for the USDM cars and pictures too. Is anyone else interested?

[Ming]

Originally Posted by 87aero

"Definitive GM Performance Car List: Post-Muscle - 1985". I know I already have a lot of suggestions for the USDM cars and pictures too. Is anyone else interested?

87Aero, thanks, that sounds like a great idea. I've posted a thread which will be the place to build it up, and then later will post it here in the Staff Commentary section with a credit to you, of course.

Please add to the list whatever cars you'd like to see on it by replying to this thread: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...597#post826597

I'll admit that I'm not as knowledgeable about this time period in GM's history, so I'll let you kick it off!

[SS4EVER]

How about the Ron Fellows 2000 Callaway-tuned Monte Carlo. I know I'm late but better late than never. oops, my bad, it's a 2001.
The Callaway-tuned Ron Fellows Edition Monte Carlo.

[Ming]

Originally Posted by SS4EVER

How about the Ron Fellows 2000 Callaway-tuned Monte Carlo. I know I'm late but better late than never. oops, my bad, it's a 2001.
The Callaway-tuned Ron Fellows Edition Monte Carlo.

Done, and thanks!

[EldoFan]

Would you consider the late 90's (95-99) Lumina LTZ and Monte Carlo Z34???

I know HP #'s in the low 200's isn't all that 'sporty'.....but I'm of the opinion they weren't half bad.....

[Ming]

Originally Posted by EldoFan

Would you consider the late 90's (95-99) Lumina LTZ and Monte Carlo Z34???

I know HP #'s in the low 200's isn't all that 'sporty'.....but I'm of the opinion they weren't half bad.....

Sure. Can you pick one model year for each? Maybe something a little different or special that sets them apart? I liked the look of the late 90's MC.

[EldoFan]

Aight......

Second Gen. Lumina 'LTZ' (1997)
Monte Carlo 'Z34' (1997)

The reason I chose 1997 as the MY for both is because that was the last year the 'LQ7' was available in the LTZ and Z34........the successor, the L36 3600 Series II, sacrificed 15hp (but gained 15 ft/lb of torque)

[Ming]

Originally Posted by EldoFan

Aight......

Second Gen. Lumina 'LTZ' (1997)
Monte Carlo 'Z34' (1997)

The reason I chose 1997 as the MY for both is because that was the last year the 'LQ7' was available in the LTZ and Z34........the successor, the L36 3600 Series II, sacrificed 15hp (but gained 15 ft/lb of torque)

Thanks! Added 'em.

[F14CRAZY]

Too bad the Twin Dual Cam was the most complex way possible to make 200 some hp

[EldoFan]

I agree.......the supercharged Series III 3800 would've been a good fit in both......would have been a nice way to send out the Lumina.

[OkieTA]

How about the 2002 GMMG Camaro ZL1?