GM Forum / GM News GM Forum / GM News
Go Back   GM Inside News Forum > Discussion Area > Complaint Line
Register Home Forum Active Topics Media Gallery Mark Forums Read


       
GM Inside News & GM Forum is the premier GM Forum and GM News Source on the internet. We discuss all GM models on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-20-2008, 12:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar
 
TuffG929's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: New York
Posts: 2,469
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

To each his own. But, I can say that I have never experienced a "glitch", nor has anybody I know. I've never even heard about such a thing until I saw this thread. I suppose I'm just very willing to accept new technology. It has worked pretty well for me.
TuffG929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-20-2008, 12:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
5.3 Liter LS4 V8
 
coaster.n3rd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 5,059 Miles SE of Dutch Harbor
Drives: 2008 Saturn Aura XE 2.4 I-4
Posts: 3,860
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Something doesn't seem right here. Which state did you buy your vehicle in?

For every vehicle I sell, I must have the new owner sign a GM CUSTOMER INCENTIVE AND ONSTAR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

This form has all the GM brand logos at the top and is issued from GM, not Saturn or my facility.

In this form it clearly states the following (VERBATIM)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cancellation of All OnStar Services:
I understand that to cancel all OnStar services in my vehicle, I must press the blue OnStar button in my vehicle or call 1.88.4onstar (1.888.466.7827) or TTY 1.877.248.2080 and request that all OnStar services be cancelled.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

My guess is the OnStar rep screwed up call back again.

Also, check to see if your pants are bunched in uncomfortable places.
__________________
'I've seen the next Cadillac STS replacement and it looks damn good... like a ****ing Bentley.' - Unclassified GM exec.


'I had no respect for the 55 mph limit and I took great delight in breaking the limit I can assure you.'

www.32hours7minutes.com
coaster.n3rd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 12:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
emh
3.9 Liter V6
 
emh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 950
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

In principle, I agree that if you own the vehicle, you sould be able to opt out of (or cancel) services you have paid for as long as you aren't asking for a refund (which I presume you aren't).

I also agree that having more active systems that *could* break exponentially increases the probability of something actually going wrong.

That said, I have two questions:
1. Isn't the owner required to call and activate OnStar or other telematics services after taking delivery of the vehicle? (I had to do this on both my GM and non-GM vehicles but don't know if this has changed since, or if the system is activated regardless).
2. Catastrophic failures of the nature you are talking about are rare and a very small fraction of the dangers you are likely to face everyday. Aren't you "sweating the small stuff"?
emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 12:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
3.9 Liter V6
 
VMax2007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Minnesota
Drives: 2007 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4 Crewcab VortecMax
Posts: 901
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Girl, I want you here with me
But Im really not as cool as Id like to be
cause theres a red, under my bed
And theres a little yellow man in my head
And theres a true blue inside of me
That keeps stoppin me, touchin ya, watchin ya, lovin ya

Paranoia, the destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer.
__________________

2007 GMC Sierra SLT CrewCab VortecMax 6.0, 3.73's
2004 Chevy Impala LS (Wife's ride).
VMax2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 12:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
3.8 Liter V6
 
Randiglio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Fresno, Ca
Drives: 1985 GMC 1500 6.2 2004 Buick Rendezvous
Posts: 343
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp...conditions.jsp

Call or press the little blue button....
Quote:
5. ENDING YOUR OnStar SERVICE. You can cancel your OnStar service at any time. All you have to do is call us or press the blue OnStar button in your Car and tell an OnStar Advisor you want to cancel service. Unless your OnStar Plan specifies otherwise, we will refund to you any whole months remaining on your OnStar Plan that you have paid in advance, other than any payment that was included in the purchase or lease price of your Car. You won't be entitled to any other refunds for OnStar service, OnStar Equipment or for Hands-Free Calling minutes. If you cancel service, we have the right to turn off your OnStar Equipment and you may have to pay for any reactivation. You can also call us or press the blue OnStar button in your Car at any time to get instructions on how to disable the OnStar system in your Car.
Right off the Onstar website.
__________________
Quote:
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Silence is Golden
Duct tape is Silver

Thank Goodness we have the Internet to spread Ignorance, Stupidity, Vitriol, Innuendo and EVERYONE'S* Stupid-assed Opinions at the speed of light!

*(Mine included)
Randiglio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 05:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
5.3 Liter LS4 V8
 
coaster.n3rd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 5,059 Miles SE of Dutch Harbor
Drives: 2008 Saturn Aura XE 2.4 I-4
Posts: 3,860
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Quote:
Originally Posted by emh View Post
1. Isn't the owner required to call and activate OnStar or other telematics services after taking delivery of the vehicle? (I had to do this on both my GM and non-GM vehicles but don't know if this has changed since, or if the system is activated regardless).
OnStar can be activated by the selling dealer at www.gmdealerworld.com

I activate it for all my customers upon their request.
__________________
'I've seen the next Cadillac STS replacement and it looks damn good... like a ****ing Bentley.' - Unclassified GM exec.


'I had no respect for the 55 mph limit and I took great delight in breaking the limit I can assure you.'

www.32hours7minutes.com
coaster.n3rd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 05:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
2.4 Liter ECOTEC
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 112
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Good Thread.

Is there a plug I can un-plug or where is the antenna wire to un-plug? I have aready pulled a fuse which I believe is related to OnStar.

Vehicle is 06 Chev p/u. Has 1 antenna combining OnStar and cell service.

Thanks
fish factory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 05:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
3.8 Liter V6
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: okc
Drives: 06impltz,04 granprixGTP,99jimmy4x4, 95blzr4x4
Posts: 457
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Quote:
Originally Posted by emh View Post
In principle, I agree that if you own the vehicle, you sould be able to opt out of (or cancel) services you have paid for as long as you aren't asking for a refund (which I presume you aren't).

I also agree that having more active systems that *could* break exponentially increases the probability of something actually going wrong.

That said, I have two questions:
1. Isn't the owner required to call and activate OnStar or other telematics services after taking delivery of the vehicle? (I had to do this on both my GM and non-GM vehicles but don't know if this has changed since, or if the system is activated regardless).
2. Catastrophic failures of the nature you are talking about are rare and a very small fraction of the dangers you are likely to face everyday. Aren't you "sweating the small stuff"?
dealerships are required to activate the onstar upon delivery of a vehicle that has the onstar system. it is upto the customer to keypress in to the sytem to complete the activation after delivery. can you imagine what some ambulance chaser would do if a dealership failed to activate the onstar system and a customer had an accident that onstar could of possibly saved his life? asking a dealership to not activate the onstar is about the same thing as asking them to disconnect the airbags in his auto. other than government agency's fbi cia or other law enforcement agencies are the only people that can get away without having onstar activated. once the free year is up it is upto the customer to ante up or your activation is canceled anyway. i sure hope the customer never needs the service.
__________________

Last edited by redlipp : 06-20-2008 at 05:49 PM.
redlipp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 08:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
 
73ChevelleSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rochester NY
Drives: 2008 Impala
Posts: 680
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Are you on any type of medication?
__________________
GM World Class Certified
ASE Master Tech
ASE Advance Engine Performance L1
GM MOE 2005 Gold
Gm MOE 2006 Gold
NY State Certified Vehicle Inspector
73ChevelleSS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 08:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
6.0 Liter LS2 V8
 
big swede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Midwest
Drives: 07' Monte Carlo SS
Posts: 4,097
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

WOW talk about worried about nothing.
__________________
07' SS Monte
big swede is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 09:47 PM   #26 (permalink)
1.8 Liter ECOTEC
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 49
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Quote:
Originally Posted by coaster.n3rd View Post
Something doesn't seem right here. Which state did you buy your vehicle in?

For every vehicle I sell, I must have the new owner sign a GM CUSTOMER INCENTIVE AND ONSTAR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

This form has all the GM brand logos at the top and is issued from GM, not Saturn or my facility.

In this form it clearly states the following (VERBATIM)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cancellation of All OnStar Services:
I understand that to cancel all OnStar services in my vehicle, I must press the blue OnStar button in my vehicle or call 1.88.4onstar (1.888.466.7827) or TTY 1.877.248.2080 and request that all OnStar services be cancelled.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

My guess is the OnStar rep screwed up call back again.

Also, check to see if your pants are bunched in uncomfortable places.
Bought it in Georgia. Signed nothing OnStar related. Told the dealer I did not want it and they said no problem. I have called that OnStar number 5 times. Finally someone volunteered to freeze the buttons today, but each time they say the delaer must cancel during the free trial period. Very horrible customer service policy. This situation has opened my eyes why Toyoa will have the number 1 U.S. market share in just a few years.
auburnblu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 09:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
1.8 Liter ECOTEC
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 49
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Quote:
Originally Posted by emh View Post
In principle, I agree that if you own the vehicle, you sould be able to opt out of (or cancel) services you have paid for as long as you aren't asking for a refund (which I presume you aren't).

I also agree that having more active systems that *could* break exponentially increases the probability of something actually going wrong.

That said, I have two questions:
1. Isn't the owner required to call and activate OnStar or other telematics services after taking delivery of the vehicle? (I had to do this on both my GM and non-GM vehicles but don't know if this has changed since, or if the system is activated regardless).
2. Catastrophic failures of the nature you are talking about are rare and a very small fraction of the dangers you are likely to face everyday. Aren't you "sweating the small stuff"?

Was activated without my signature or call, and I did not press the Blue button. Have read enough reviews on Edmunds.com from disappointed Silverado and Sierra drivers on their fuel mileage to wonder if its not an OnStar f**kup. This is my vehicle, if I would have bought a Toyota or Dodge I would have this constant software virus issue to deal with. GM is acting like its 1955 and they are king and can tell all what to do. Screw that.

Thank God I got my title for the truck today, can sell this pos tomorrow if I feel like it. Finding a long bed 5.7 Tundra in stock around here is not easy though.
auburnblu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 10:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
1.8 Liter ECOTEC
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 49
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Quote:
Originally Posted by redlipp View Post
dealerships are required to activate the onstar upon delivery of a vehicle that has the onstar system. it is upto the customer to keypress in to the sytem to complete the activation after delivery. can you imagine what some ambulance chaser would do if a dealership failed to activate the onstar system and a customer had an accident that onstar could of possibly saved his life? asking a dealership to not activate the onstar is about the same thing as asking them to disconnect the airbags in his auto. other than government agency's fbi cia or other law enforcement agencies are the only people that can get away without having onstar activated. once the free year is up it is upto the customer to ante up or your activation is canceled anyway. i sure hope the customer never needs the service.
I'll buy the legal argument. Nope don't need he service, I have an amazing device called a MOBILE phone and AAA and these also can be used in my other vehicle or any vehicle. It is absolutely amazing. And turn by turn, instead of pulling over and writing down directions they give me. I pull over and either use a map or use MapQuest on my Blackberry.
auburnblu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 10:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
GMI Staff Member
 
ChevyRules's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Celestial Being
Drives: 2007 Saturn Aura XR, 2007 BMW 335xi
Posts: 2,405
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

Quote:
Originally Posted by auburnblu View Post
Was activated without my signature or call, and I did not press the Blue button. Have read enough reviews on Edmunds.com from disappointed Silverado and Sierra drivers on their fuel mileage to wonder if its not an OnStar f**kup. This is my vehicle, if I would have bought a Toyota or Dodge I would have this constant software virus issue to deal with. GM is acting like its 1955 and they are king and can tell all what to do. Screw that.

Thank God I got my title for the truck today, can sell this pos tomorrow if I feel like it. Finding a long bed 5.7 Tundra in stock around here is not easy though.
You are definitely paranoid. Onstar will not effect the vehicles fuel economy. They can not mess with the fuel system, etc. They can slow down the vehicle if you report it stolen and the chances of Onstar screwing up and sending a signal to your truck to slow down instead of the intended one is VERY rare if never.

PS: What happens when you are knocked unconscious in an accident so you can't call AAA with your cell phone? Onstar will do that for you.
__________________
ChevyRules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 10:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
6.0 Liter LS2 V8
 
big swede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Midwest
Drives: 07' Monte Carlo SS
Posts: 4,097
Re: Only Dealership can cancel OnStar

I hope he doesn't find out about the black box.
__________________
07' SS Monte
big swede is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  GM Inside News Forum > Discussion Area > Complaint Line



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
©2008 GMInsidenews.com.
GMInsideNews.com is not affiliated with GM, General Motors or any GM Divisions in any capacity.
GMInsideNews.com is an enthusiasts' forum dedicated entirely to news about GM vehicles.
  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.