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Old 09-21-2008, 05:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
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thats how they cheat the numbers-its on the same platform as a camry-it counts as a camry sale!! cheatin MOFOs

Honda and Nissan do the same with their coups as well. They just don't give them a separate 2nd name. Accord coupe, Altima coupe, Camry coupe.

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Old 09-21-2008, 05:49 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't think this car looks as bad as some people would think the interior not withstanding. The question still remains with another CUV/SUV brought to the frey over at yoda how will it stand among the other 7 they currently have on the market. I think the Venza is more in line with the Nissan Rogue/Murano as far as direct competition more so than the Nox though.

It's anticipation of the near certain demise of the BOF segment.

The FJ is dead already.
The 4Runner will remain simply on it's name alone but the volume will be much much smaller, back to off-road enthusiasts.
The Sequoia will be a niche vehicle for those that need towing and space for 6+.
The Land Cruiser may remain as a tip of the hat to the uber-wealthy.

All four of the above will be shrinking into oblivion in the near future as the public defects the BOF segment. However in order to keep/capture these defectors there have to be choices available or they buy elsewhere. Not every defector from the SUV segment will move to a car.

With the Venza there is a complete lineup of unibody utilities for every buyer from $23000 to $48000. If you include the Matrix then from $18000+
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:15 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Honda and Nissan do the same with their coups as well. They just don't give them a separate 2nd name. Accord coupe, Altima coupe, Camry coupe.

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thats the difference. the nissan/honda are styled the same and have the same names. the toyota doesnt
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:37 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I wouldn't be surprised if they bring out a Lexus version of this ugly thing!

Note the headlight look. It is very similar to the Ford Edge's headlight design, though less boxy. Can you say "copycat"??
I hope they spare us a Lexus version, that would be a very Ford or GM move to do so. The headlights are totally copied from the Edge and it even has a more stylized (ugly) 3 bar chrome grill. It does have nice lines on the side, but even with presumably nicer interior materials, the quality is prob the same as Ford and the Edges' stack looks so much better.

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Direct competitor to the Equinox is the Rav 4. This is a Camry wagon, the closest thing GM made to this car in recent history is the Malibu Maxx. Don't be surprised if this thing is named Camry Venza, just like the Solora is actually the Camry Solara, and the Matrix is a Corolla Matrix.
Yeah GM currently doesnt really have a CR-V or Rav competitor. The Equinox is in the Edge or Murano class and now the Venza joins this midsized tall wagon-crossover class. The previous gen Highlander went against the Murano but had a 3rd row seat and got larger in '08. All of these vehicles are in the same class because they do or will seat 5.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:02 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Venza ?

For those not aware, the Venza will be available with either FWD or AWD, and you will have a choice between 2.7L 4-cylinder engine or 3.5L V6.

I'm not crazy about the grille, but I do like the rest of it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:56 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Toyota..........buck the trend, do your own thing and bring us some of these (instead of cranking out another anonymous CUV) !!!



(This is an Avensis wagon BTW)
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I'm not crazy about the grille, but I do like the rest of it.
Why does that not surprise me?
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:13 PM   #38 (permalink)
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The Exterior of the Venza? is actually way more striking than the rounded off boring acadia for comparison. but damn that dash is just butt-ugly. I hate those ugly lines in the seat. reminds me of something that'd be in an old ladies car..
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