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Old 06-06-2008, 11:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Nissan GTR's 7:29 Nurburgring Time VIDEO

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I see what you're saying. I could have sworn I read that the 'official' times GM put out were standing start.

Maybe I'm wrong. It'd be nice if the times all stated how they were achieved. Like isn't the GT-R said to have used better tires than stock? The GT-R is very fast, don't get me wrong, it just seems a bit out of line that it runs as fast as it does considering it's rated power and weight.
I think all official runs are done with a running start/ flying start.

After the 90 degree turn to the right, the cars accelerate out of the corner, crosses the start/finish line, then slows down to make a 90 degree turn to the left then accelerates again...

CTS-V's Nurburgring run...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhW5V...eature=related
Because of the poor editing, the video abruptly cuts to the car crossing the start/finsh line(0:14 sec) but we can see that it has already gathered some speed when it crosses the start/finish line.

Even the Pagani Zonda's 7:27 run was done that way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APbrjvadVA0

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The recent C&D test shows times substantially slower than most other tests and they jive with it's power-to-weight ratio.
They mentioned something about the slower times and a different setting for production (USDM GTR?)
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That GT-R from the May issue launched at 4500 rpm; 4400 rpm is the final setting for production. This GT-R may have been down on power; the May car ran the quarter-mile in 11.5 seconds at 124 mph. This one couldn’t crack 12 seconds and was a stunning 9 mph slower. (We’ve since tested a third GT-R that was as quick as the first car.)

Despite losing the drag-racing segment of our comparo to the raucous 911 Turbo, the GT-R posted the best lap time (1:26.7) on a 1.5-mile-long portion of Nevada’s Reno-Fernley road course.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-3.html

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Old 06-07-2008, 12:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Nissan GTR's 7:29 Nurburgring Time VIDEO

GTR goes down to the Ford GT: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/06/v...-in-super-lap/

Weird. The only 'Ring time I can find for the GT is 7:42.

That didn't look like a 7:29 car vs a 7:42 car to me. You'd think it would be impossible for the GTR to lose...especially on a tight track. I'd like to see more comparison test.
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GTR goes down to the Ford GT: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/06/v...-in-super-lap/

Weird. The only 'Ring time I can find for the GT is 7:42.

That didn't look like a 7:29 car vs a 7:42 car to me. You'd think it would be impossible for the GTR to lose...especially on a tight track. I'd like to see more comparison test.
Perhaps its trickier to drive the much lighter and much more powerful RWD Ford GT at Nurburgring. (harder to control?)

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Re: Nissan GTR's 7:29 Nurburgring Time VIDEO

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I think all official runs are done with a running start/ flying start.

After the 90 degree turn to the right, the cars accelerate out of the corner, crosses the start/finish line, then slows down to make a 90 degree turn to the left then accelerates again...

CTS-V's Nurburgring run...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhW5V...eature=related
Because of the poor editing, the video abruptly cuts to the car crossing the start/finsh line(0:14 sec) but we can see that it has already gathered some speed when it crosses the start/finish line.

Even the Pagani Zonda's 7:27 run was done that way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APbrjvadVA0


They mentioned something about the slower times and a different setting for production (USDM GTR?)

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-3.html
I stand corrected on the 'Ring times.

The thing is with the US spec GT-R is that they use the initial, much faster, GT-R as the benchmark then stick us with one that is likely down 75-100hp. This is just figured by viewing the difference in times. So what are we to believe? Will you GT-R trap 115 or 123? BIG difference.
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I stand corrected on the 'Ring times.

The thing is with the US spec GT-R is that they use the initial, much faster, GT-R as the benchmark then stick us with one that is likely down 75-100hp. This is just figured by viewing the difference in times. So what are we to believe? Will you GT-R trap 115 or 123? BIG difference.

1.) Your viewing of difference in times is flawed.
2.) Yes, the US version of the GTR is actually BETTER than the Japanese GTR because of the left hand drive position. The way the car is built actually favors left hand drive.
3.) 70-100hp is too much. Don't pull out big #s.
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3.) 70-100hp is too much. Don't pull out big #s.
How else do you explain 115-124 mph? I suppose you've drag raced before?

A past car of mine that weighed 3500lbs picked up only 6mph for 65hp at the wheels. Same 60ft time.
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