Imports VS Nascar

[CACressida]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=119633#2

Tradition people argue.. NASCAR has always been all AMERICAN!!

I forgot that back in the days Imports!!! were in Nascar..

Anyway, interesting read, thought you guys might be interested.

[Butz]

I really don't care, I just wish if the cars were real, like if there's really a RWD V8 Camry!

[CACressida]

Originally Posted by Butz

I really don't care, I just wish if the cars were real, like if there's really a RWD V8 Camry!

Same goes for the Monte Carlo

If all or most ppl thought like you, then there wouldn't be alot of this bull being spewed out everywhere about Nascar being all American and stuff..

[E. Haskell]

I read that a few days ago. My only question is how long does it take to establish a tradition? The last race he mentioned with a foreign brand was 1958 - if my math isn't off, that is almost 50 yrs ago.

NASCAR was formed in 1948 - by the way the article sounds, most foreign brands were out by the early-50s. Therefore, I would say NASCAR is traditionally a motor sport involving American brands. He basically picked out a technicality.

(I don't watch so I have no personal feelings about it)

[Elk]

I don’t see Edmunds point other then the name today’s NASCAR has nothing to do with 1950's NASCAR.

Edmunds would have been better off arguing that there is nothing traditional about today’s NASCAR. And that if tradition actually meant anything they would still be using stock cars.

[Old Dood]

Originally Posted by Butz

I really don't care, I just wish if the cars were real, like if there's really a RWD V8 Camry!

I have to agree.
Why can't they start a "new" race with cars off the showroom floor. Have a independent group break in the cars to let's say 2K miles on them. ( so they are all broke in) Then give them to the racing teams....and Let Em Rock!

[Cabana Boy]

Originally Posted by Elk

I don’t see Edmunds point other then the name today’s NASCAR has nothing to do with 1950's NASCAR.

Edmunds would have been better off arguing that there is nothing traditional about today’s NASCAR. And that if tradition actually meant anything they would still be using stock cars.

Great points.
But as driver safety became the governing factor for most of what we see today in NASCAR, then it is all for the better. Otherwise, we would be watching a bunch of lame, slightly modified production cars, with speeds that are much slower.

That said too, I hate that Toyota entered the sport. It just changes the entire dynamics in a very negative way overall due to their deep pockets. It should not be about who has the most money to invest, as governing bodies have tried so hard to equalize the cars to make it more about the driver. Otherwise, we will see F1 style racing, with wealthy teams pulling far ahead, and the 1st place decided early in the race. No thanks. I like fender-to-fender racing.

[E. Haskell]

You can see basically factory cars race in different series like SCCA racing. Many of the classes only allow very slight modifications. Not surprisingly, these series have no where near the fan base of NASCAR.

People don't want to see that. Not to mention the safety hazards of racing a factory car - imagine crashing a modern unibody car into the wall at 120mph - Yikes!

[Elk]

Originally Posted by Cabana Boy

Great points.
But as driver safety became the governing factor for most of what we see today in NASCAR, then it is all for the better. Otherwise, we would be watching a bunch of lame, slightly modified production cars, with speeds that are much slower.

Oh give me a break. If you really cared more about driver safety and how fast the car go then what they were driving you would be watching Indycar.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=222192

Originally Posted by Cabana Boy

It should not be about who has the most money to invest,

It’s a little late to worry about that isn’t it? Or can you not see the NASCAR already is a multi-million sport?

[Elk]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

You can see basically factory cars race in different series like SCCA racing. Many of the classes only allow very slight modifications. Not surprisingly, these series have no where near the fan base of NASCAR.

They don’t have the fan base because SCCA is about racing. If it was a soap opera with cars like NASCAR they would have more fans.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by Elk

They don’t have the fan base because SCCA is about racing. If it was a soap opera with cars like NASCAR they would have more fans.

A lot of people enjoy Nascar for the racing skill involved. Regardless, Nascar has no reason to change - it's the 2nd most popular spectator sport in America(behind NFL). If people want to see a real Taurus race around the track, they can go elsewhere.

[327]

Originally Posted by Elk

I don’t see Edmunds point other then the name today’s NASCAR has nothing to do with 1950's NASCAR.

Edmunds would have been better off arguing that there is nothing traditional about today’s NASCAR. And that if tradition actually meant anything they would still be using stock cars.

except its just a name, they never ran stock cars. The whole sport was based on moonshiners running MODIFIED cars from the cops. Even nascar.com says they ran cars off dealer lots in 1949 and they didnt stand up to the task. Nascar has done a lot of things, running imports in the early days to 60s z06 corvettes for a few races!

You guys need to face it, Nascars loss of TV viewership hasnt dropped because of the cars!

why doesnt anyone complain about NHRA?

[ZeroDrag]

Isn't Camry the only car in NASCAR that is actually made in America?

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by ZeroDrag

Isn't Camry the only car in NASCAR that is actually made in America?

All cars in Nascar are made in America - near Charlotte I believe (Moorseville?)

[griswold44]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

All cars in Nascar are made in America - near Charlotte I believe (Moorseville?)

I think he's talking about the actual vehicles. Camry in Kentucky, Monte Carlo is built in Canada, Charger in Canada, Fusion in Mexico.