Oiii oii oii! I wish someone besides VW would bring some non-lux-priced diesels to the US market.
Honda? Bring it on! I'm hoping for the KIA 1.6 diesel for the Soul.
Who will be the first brave soul/company?
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I was thinking the CR-V with the 1.6L iDTEC!!!
It is important what WE use as our "moral compass" and ...
the "measuring stick" chosen for judging progress/success as well.
44 mpg by 2010 ... 2013?
I would prefer the 2.2 iDTEC engine in a vehicle any larger than the Civic.
Related I saw somewhere that Honda seems to have made a commitment to a 7 sp DCT of some sort.
So like for others, seems they may end up with a diesel or two, three or four electrification types, CVTs, 6SP MTs / CATS...... and maybe still..... the 9HP for Acura and related.
And they're keeping on the 'early' track for the fuel cells.
All of this when taken together, is going to require a great deal of money - even if they drop one or two and or or back pedal and stretch.
I swear, this does not bode well for the rest of the vehicle ......
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GM don't have any up-to-date car diesels available - either the elderly VM Motori units or the less old but not modern Fiat units. GM Powertrain holds all their rights, not the original developers, but they aren't GM designs.
GM currently has two 2.0 I4 diesels available - one that's ex-VM Motori and one that's ex-Fiat JTD - I've no idea why it has both although it did the same years ago with a 1.7 I4 from Isuzu and their in-house 1.7 diesel, which was the last car diesel designed by GM, ie not licenced from elsewhere.
The BMW diesels are thought to be the best in Europe, closely followed by the PSA diesels, now being built by the PSA/Ford joint venture and also used by Jaguar Land Rover.
But I thought the Prius was the only way to save the world from itself?
GM via GM powertrain, VM Motori , or PSA has access to very competitive diesels, and I wonder what came of the memorandum of understanding between GM and BMW.
At one time BMW supplied the straight-6 2.5 diesel to Opel/Vauxhall for use in the Omega but they would only supply it in a very low state of tune and they weren't that reliable when used on Opel/Vauxhall service schedules which had longer intervals than BMW.
Opel/Vauxhall did use an Isuzu V6 3.0 diesel in the Vectra-C which replaced Omega, as well as Fiat I4 1.9 diesels, but the big diesel didn't get carried over to the Insignia.
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