***Honda Display @ Museum Speyer***

cawimmer430 · 01-13-2008, 08:27 AM

Here are some car pictures from the Technik Museum Speyer. I am going to group them so here are all the Honda pictures with some info.

1999 Honda Insight: the first hybrid vehicle from Honda with a rated fuel economy performance of 3.4 l / 100 km.

2002 Honda Civic IMA: a more advanced hybrid car featuring a 9-hp and 83-hp 1.4-l 4-cylinder engine. The Civic IMA needs less than 5 liters of gasoline per 100 km.

2004 Honda Civic Hybrid: the latest Civic hybrid from Honda. It combines a 20-hp electric engine with a 95-horsepower 1.4-l gasoline engine. Fuel economy is rated at 4.6 l / 100 km.

1964 Honda S600: revolutionary for its time in that it used lightweight construction, the S600 featured a 606cc 4-cylinder motor with 57-horsepower that revved all the way to 8,500 RPM. Its most spectaculat success came in 1964 when Denny Hulme drove the S600 to victory at the "500 km 1.000cc" race on the Nürburgring.

2000 Honda S2000 Rally: this is the rally version of the Honda S2000, who's engine has garnered numerous awards for being the highest power density producing production motor (120-hp per liter).

1966 Honda S800: the S800 was introduced in 1965 at the Paris Motor Show. Its 791cc 67-hp engine came from a motorcycle and officially can rev up to 8.500, though it is capable of reaching 10,000 RPM too.

1985 Honda CRX: the CRX was designed as a low priced sports car that also would deliver good fuel economy. It weighs under 1-ton and hence the 100-horsepower 1.5-l engine is more than suited to it.

Honda Civic 2.0i VTEC Type-R: 1998cc DOHC, 201-horsepower, 193 Nm @ 5,600 RPM, 11:1 compression, 235 km/h top speed, 6.6 second 0-100 km/h, 9.1 l / 100 km fuel economy.

1977 Honda Civic 1200: one of the most revolutionary compact cars of the 20th century, the Civic has been produced over 17 million times and was offered in the 1972 version with low emissions engines in Japan and the US. It was able to satisfy the strict US emission laws without a catalytic converter until 1983.

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j_granlund · 01-13-2008, 02:52 PM

Intresting to say the least.

lio45 · 01-13-2008, 05:07 PM

Wow!

Thanks for the pics! (especially the S600/800 and first-gen Civic... you don't see these every day!!!)

Minnesota Nice · 01-13-2008, 05:22 PM

I wish so much that they would've used the JDM front clip of the Civic on the North American Civics. It looks so much better.

Bravada · 01-13-2008, 06:47 PM

I love vintage Hondas (and Japanese cars in general), too bad they don't have more...

Htay7500 · 01-13-2008, 08:28 PM

more pics plz!! is that all the hondas in there? I have a question, don't they have the best diesels from Japan?

King Riffle · 01-13-2008, 09:18 PM

Great pics, thanks!

One question though, wasn't the CRX designed to be a high-efficiency version of the Civic (that just happened to handle well)?

cawimmer430 · 01-14-2008, 09:00 AM

Thanks Guys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Htay7500

more pics plz!! is that all the hondas in there? I have a question, don't they have the best diesels from Japan?

More pics will come up soon! These were all the Honda cars in the museum. They had a couple of motorcycles but I didn't photograph them because I'm more of a car / airplane guy.

Honda has a pretty good diesel in their European products. A 2.2-l CTDi and I believe a smaller diesel engine for the Jazz and Civic. I don't think Honda is a diesel leader though, that honor probably goes to Isuzu when it comes to the best Japanese diesels.

cawimmer430 · 01-14-2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Riffle

Great pics, thanks!

One question though, wasn't the CRX designed to be a high-efficiency version of the Civic (that just happened to handle well)?

Thanks.

I'm sadly no Honda expert. The info I posted was from the info plaques I photographed. I guess when it comes to cars one can actually trust Wikipedia on them too.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CRX

King Riffle · 01-14-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cawimmer430

Thanks.

I'm sadly no Honda expert. The info I posted was from the info plaques I photographed. I guess when it comes to cars one can actually trust Wikipedia on them too.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CRX

I see. I don't know where I heard that it was an econobox.

CRXs are cool.

Bravada · 01-15-2008, 02:25 PM

Jazz gets a diesel? Don't think so... Civic used to get the rather ancient 1.7 Isuzu diesel (made in Poland

) also fitted in Opels, but they phased it out when they got the 2.2. The 2.2 is indeed collecting very very good reviews, especially for a company with no history of building diesel-powered passenger cars. They've accomplished that without just reaching out to somebody who already had the expertise in building modern diesel engines, like Ford to PSA or
GM to Fiat. I believe this is the proof that they can build anything if they want - heck, they even built a plane!

That said, they've only got one diesel, and it's a 2.2, which incurs unfavorable taxation/insurance rates in many European countries (being larger than 2.0, this, among others, killed Nissan's 2.2 diesel too). They also need a smaller unit for the Jazz and the Civic, and somehow it's taking long to see a spin-off of smaller displacement.

01-13-2008, 08:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
cawimmer430 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mühldorf am Inn, Germany Drives: 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300SE (W126) Posts: 890	*Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* Here are some car pictures from the Technik Museum Speyer. I am going to group them so here are all the Honda pictures with some info. 1999 Honda Insight: the first hybrid vehicle from Honda with a rated fuel economy performance of 3.4 l / 100 km. 2002 Honda Civic IMA: a more advanced hybrid car featuring a 9-hp and 83-hp 1.4-l 4-cylinder engine. The Civic IMA needs less than 5 liters of gasoline per 100 km. 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid: the latest Civic hybrid from Honda. It combines a 20-hp electric engine with a 95-horsepower 1.4-l gasoline engine. Fuel economy is rated at 4.6 l / 100 km. 1964 Honda S600: revolutionary for its time in that it used lightweight construction, the S600 featured a 606cc 4-cylinder motor with 57-horsepower that revved all the way to 8,500 RPM. Its most spectaculat success came in 1964 when Denny Hulme drove the S600 to victory at the "500 km 1.000cc" race on the Nürburgring. 2000 Honda S2000 Rally: this is the rally version of the Honda S2000, who's engine has garnered numerous awards for being the highest power density producing production motor (120-hp per liter). 1966 Honda S800: the S800 was introduced in 1965 at the Paris Motor Show. Its 791cc 67-hp engine came from a motorcycle and officially can rev up to 8.500, though it is capable of reaching 10,000 RPM too. 1985 Honda CRX: the CRX was designed as a low priced sports car that also would deliver good fuel economy. It weighs under 1-ton and hence the 100-horsepower 1.5-l engine is more than suited to it. Honda Civic 2.0i VTEC Type-R: 1998cc DOHC, 201-horsepower, 193 Nm @ 5,600 RPM, 11:1 compression, 235 km/h top speed, 6.6 second 0-100 km/h, 9.1 l / 100 km fuel economy. 1977 Honda Civic 1200: one of the most revolutionary compact cars of the 20th century, the Civic has been produced over 17 million times and was offered in the 1972 version with low emissions engines in Japan and the US. It was able to satisfy the strict US emission laws without a catalytic converter until 1983. The End

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j_granlund 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Olmsted Falls,OH Drives: parents 05 cobalt base sedan with auto,spoiler,and Posts: 582	Re: *Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* Intresting to say the least. __________________ those big flying thingies knocked my picture off the wall. Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 I don't know if that worked. I did, however, teach her that prius = litter box...

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lio45 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherbrooke, Québec Drives: 1995 Chevy K1500 and various other vehicles Posts: 4,775	Re: *Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* Wow! Thanks for the pics! (especially the S600/800 and first-gen Civic... you don't see these every day!!!)

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Minnesota Nice 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Minneapolis Drives: 2006 Honda Civic Si Posts: 1,655	Re: *Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* I wish so much that they would've used the JDM front clip of the Civic on the North American Civics. It looks so much better. __________________

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Htay7500 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 539	Re: *Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* more pics plz!! is that all the hondas in there? I have a question, don't they have the best diesels from Japan?

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King Riffle 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fond Du Lac, WI Drives: 2004 Ford Taurus SES sedan. Posts: 3,243	Re: *Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* Great pics, thanks! One question though, wasn't the CRX designed to be a high-efficiency version of the Civic (that just happened to handle well)? __________________

01-15-2008, 02:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bravada 70 MPG Two Mode Saturn Hybrid Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 10,871	Re: *Honda Display @ Museum Speyer* Jazz gets a diesel? Don't think so... Civic used to get the rather ancient 1.7 Isuzu diesel (made in Poland ) also fitted in Opels, but they phased it out when they got the 2.2. The 2.2 is indeed collecting very very good reviews, especially for a company with no history of building diesel-powered passenger cars. They've accomplished that without just reaching out to somebody who already had the expertise in building modern diesel engines, like Ford to PSA or GM to Fiat. I believe this is the proof that they can build anything if they want - heck, they even built a plane! That said, they've only got one diesel, and it's a 2.2, which incurs unfavorable taxation/insurance rates in many European countries (being larger than 2.0, this, among others, killed Nissan's 2.2 diesel too). They also need a smaller unit for the Jazz and the Civic, and somehow it's taking long to see a spin-off of smaller displacement.

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