EVO magazine: Z06 faster than GTR

[Jimi]

With all this talk about eNanny, I have to wonder if the very people who are so concerned with "drivers" cars are actually able to bring these "drivers" cars to their full potential without electronic gizmos. Part of the reason Nissan put AWD and electronic gadgets in the GTR was to allow non-professional drivers to drive this vehicle much closer to its full potential than they would be able to without electronic aid.

In my opinion the GTR is more of a "drivers" car than the Z06 because it can be driven much closer to its full potential by drivers of different experience levels in many different conditions.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by JJ26

Funny how a misquote becomes what people are constantly repeating. Edmunds cleared up that and Nissan states that the car that ran the 7:38 was running on production tires. As for the flying start...lets do this:

SportAuto has yet to do a super test for the GT-R. However they did do a first drive. They were able to get a 7:50 out of the GT-R. For comparison the 911 Turbo did a 7:54 and the Z06 did a 7:49. All laps are done the same way when SportAuto tests cars.

For right now thats the best comparison anyone is going to get.

Comparing 'Ring times isn't logical. If the cars aren't tested on the same day, the times are useless.

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

Comparing 'Ring times isn't logical. If the cars aren't tested on the same day, the times are useless.

Hence me saying the best comparison we have right now...geez

[JBsZ06]

I think they will both be great vehicles..

and fwiw...the one techno wonder I wish corvette had which it doesn't is the DSG tranny.

Dam cool technology that the GTR has..

I suspect the GTR will be about equal in performance to the C6 coupe...if not a little better ....and the Z06 will be about the same amount ahead of the GTR..(accept out of the dig)

So split the performance difference of the c6 coupe and the C6 Z06 and thats where the performance of the GTR should be..

That new tranny is cool as hell though and yes I like shifting the manual tranny but in my opinion DSG is just to dam cool to pass up on..

JMO

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by JJ26

Hence me saying the best comparison we have right now...geez

The words "best comparison" are kinda moot if the "comparison" is worthless.

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

The words "best comparison" are kinda moot if the "comparison" is worthless.

To you it may be.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by JJ26

To you it may be.

To anyone that knows how track numbers from different days are useless.

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

To anyone that knows how track numbers from different days are useless.

Ah I see. So then for argument sake let's say the GT-R beats the 911 Turbo or Z06 in its inevitable super test for SportAuto it doesn't count because it was done on a different day? But if it fails to beat either the 911 Turbo or Z06 then that would be acceptable? Because you know if it fails to beat those cars in a test that many have said will be one of the more important comparisons that it will be used as evidence that the GT-R was all hype. You know very well that is what would happen if that was the case.

But since it was tested on a different day it can't be a useful comparison, right??? So then there will be nothing to worry about. SportAuto 's test will be useless. If the GT-R is slower then it doesn't count.

But I guess the EVO, Car and Autocar articles are useful so we can look at those comparisons as useful IMHO.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by JJ26

Ah I see. So then for argument sake let's say the GT-R beats the 911 Turbo or Z06 in its inevitable super test for SportAuto it doesn't count because it was done on a different day? But if it fails to beat either the 911 Turbo or Z06 then that would be acceptable? Because you know if it fails to beat those cars in a test that many have said will be one of the more important comparisons that it will be used as evidence that the GT-R was all hype. You know very well that is what would happen if that was the case.

But since it was tested on a different day it can't be a useful comparison, right??? So then there will be nothing to worry about. SportAuto 's test will be useless. If the GT-R is slower then it doesn't count.

But I guess the EVO, Car and Autocar articles are useful so we can look at those comparisons as useful IMHO.

Comparison test on the same day by respected publications = good.

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

Comparison test on the same day by respected publications = good.

I'm glad we agree on that. But you haven't answered my question. You and I both know that if the GT-R is slower in the super test it will be used as fodder here and else where that the GT-R is all hype. Would you agree that it shouldn't??? Even if it was slower???

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by JJ26

I'm glad we agree on that. But you haven't answered my question. You and I both know that if the GT-R is slower in the super test it will be used as fodder here and else where that the GT-R is all hype. Would you agree that it shouldn't??? Even if it was slower???

Who am I to tell people what they should or shouldn't do?

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

Who am I to tell people what they should or shouldn't do?

LOL. You didn't bite on that one. Good.

[Vladimir1978]

Originally Posted by JJ26

Funny how a misquote becomes what people are constantly repeating. Edmunds cleared up that and Nissan states that the car that ran the 7:38 was running on production tires. As for the flying start...lets do this:

SportAuto has yet to do a super test for the GT-R. However they did do a first drive. They were able to get a 7:50 out of the GT-R. For comparison the 911 Turbo did a 7:54 and the Z06 did a 7:49. All laps are done the same way when SportAuto tests cars.

For right now thats the best comparison anyone is going to get.

Praise the Lord- someone with some sense in this thread.

The ultimate time doesn't matter- the time that the particular driver had in RELATION to their time in other cars on the same track is what matters. Yes, different days, different conditions, etc. will also play a role, but if I go out and put up an 8:50 time in a GT-R because I don't know what I'm doing, does that mean that the GT-R is an 8:50 car at Nurburgring? Of course not.

As stated, SportAuto had the GT-R right there with the others in their testing- so I have no doubt in my mind that faster times can be achieved for the GT-R, because faster times have been ringed out for those other cars.

[Almag]

Here are the actual numbers from the Evo magazine test:

Accel (sec)
--------Z06----GT-R
0-30---1.9-----1.7
0-40---2.5-----2.3
0-50---3.1-----3.0
0-60---3.9-----3.8
0-70---4.9-----4.8
0-80---5.8-----6.0
0-90---7.4-----7.3
0-100--8.5-----8.9

Braking (feet)
---------Z06------GT-R
100-0---300.7----289.2

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by Almag

Braking (feet)
---------Z06------GT-R
100-0---300.7----289.2

Keep in mind they said the Z06 was accelerating faster past 100mph so that would affect the braking distance.