EVO magazine: Z06 faster than GTR

[vandy0419]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Oh Please, like we do not know that the Z06 is an outstanding track car.

The GT-R is an eNanny Car, for the track.. you sit there and the eNanny does her thing.
The Z06 is a drivers car.

I agree...especially with the new suspension changes in the current Z06 from the original C6 Z06, the car does great at the track. Just look at the results from the test done at VIR with the Porsche GT getting beat by a standard C6!

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by vandy0419

I agree...especially with the new suspension changes in the current Z06 from the original C6 Z06, the car does great at the track. Just look at the results from the test done at VIR with the Porsche GT getting beat by a standard C6!

Link please to be credible

[Almag]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Oh Please, like we do not know that the Z06 is an outstanding track car.

The GT-R is an eNanny Car, for the track.. you sit there and the eNanny does her thing.
The Z06 is a drivers car.

What is this nanny you keep bringing up?

Have you ever driven on a track?

[CobaltSScrazy]

for the *average* driver the GTR is the superior car at the track, but if you have Guru Race drivers that are professionals...everytime:

Corvette Z06>>>>>>>>>>GTR.

GTR has all those happy go lucky correction grandma can drive it sweet systems. Corvette is much 'harder' to drive at 'limit'. But great drivers in both puts the vette ahead. GTR is like 'dumb-free driving'

CobaltSS

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by Almag

What is this nanny you keep bringing up?

Have you ever driven on a track?

If you do not know what an eNanny is, I cannot help you.

[vandy0419]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Link please to be credible

For some reason it doesn't have all the times online like it did in the magazine from August 2007, but here is what I could find. The C6 beat the 911 Turbo, but just under 2 seconds behind the GT3. The classes (LL1-LL4) were separated by the price. There were 13 cars tested and the 911 Turbo was the only one that was in the LL4. The Z06 holds the record during their testing, which beat the Ford GT from the previous year's test by 2.5 seconds.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...p_2007_feature

LL4 911 Turbo 3:05.8
LL3 911 GT3 3:01.8
LL3 Z06 2:58.2
LL2 C6 w/ Z51 3:03.6

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by vandy0419

For some reason it doesn't have all the times online like it did in the magazine from August 2007, but here is what I could find. The C6 beat the 911 Turbo, but just under 2 seconds behind the GT3. The classes (LL1-LL4) were separated by the price. There were 13 cars tested and the 911 Turbo was the only one that was in the LL4. The Z06 holds the record during their testing, which beat the Ford GT from the previous year's test by 2.5 seconds.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...p_2007_feature

LL4 911 Turbo 3:05.8
LL3 911 GT3 3:01.8
LL3 Z06 2:58.2
LL2 C6 w/ Z51 3:03.6

Thank you for the link!! Man, Corvettes are stupid fast

[vandy0419]

Yeah and amazingly priced. IIRC, the C6 beat every car in LL3 except the Z06 and GT3, which included the Lotus Exige S, Audi RS4 and R8...

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

The GT-R is an eNanny Car, for the track.. you sit there and the eNanny does her thing.
The Z06 is a drivers car.

So you can put these cars into that group of e-Nanny cars:

Ferrari 599GTB
Ferrari 430
Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Ferrari Enzo
Lamborghini Gallardo/LP560-4
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
Lamborghini Murcielago/LP640
BMW M3
BMW M5
BMW M6
Porsche GT3
Porsche GT2
Porsche 911 Turbo
And last but not least-Nissan GT-R

They all have some form of what you are referring to as an e-Nanny. Even the Ferrari(s) have launch control...

The GT3 has a very good TC system designed to get the most out of the car. It can also be turned off. If the car with its e-nanny isn't a driver's car then I don't know what is. If it ever gets Porsche's DSG as an option with launch control is it no longer a driver's car? Is the 430 Scuderia with a semi auto, e-diff and all not a driver's car?

[Almag]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

If you do not know what an eNanny is, I cannot help you.

Sure you can. Just say exactly what the nanny is.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by JJ26

So you can put these cars into that group of e-Nanny cars:

Ferrari 599GTB
Ferrari 430
Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Ferrari Enzo
Lamborghini Gallardo/LP560-4
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
Lamborghini Murcielago/LP640
BMW M3
BMW M5
BMW M6
Porsche GT3
Porsche GT2
Porsche 911 Turbo
And last but not least-Nissan GT-R

They all have some form of what you are referring to as an e-Nanny. Even the Ferrari(s) have launch control...

The GT3 has a very good TC system designed to get the most out of the car. It can also be turned off. If the car with its e-nanny isn't a driver's car then I don't know what is. If it ever gets Porsche's DSG as an option with launch control is it no longer a driver's car? Is the 430 Scuderia with a semi auto, e-diff and all not a driver's car?

Remove
Porsche GT3
Porsche GT2
Porsche 911 Turbo..

[FenwickHockey65]

Hahaha. I think we all knew this was true.
Now let's see the ZR-1 do even more damage to the GT-R's reputation...

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Hahaha. I think we all knew this was true.
Now let's see the ZR-1 do even more damage to the GT-R's reputation...

ZR-1 Does not compete with the GT-R, look at the technology and the price.
The ZR-1, if it can put its power down without spin, will redefine super car...
Consindering just how mind boggling fast the Z-06 is, I expect the ZR-1 to stand tall for many more years to come. Right up there with the Ferrari F40 and McLaren F1. Its going to be a new game changer for all times.

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Remove
Porsche GT3
Porsche GT2
Porsche 911 Turbo..

No. They all incorporate Porsche's PSM or TC. By your definition that is an e-Nanny. The TC systems used by Porsche are some the best derived for sports cars.

So you would remove the Porsches from the list but not the Ferrari 430 or any of the other Ferraris?

[JJ26]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

ZR-1 Does not compete with the GT-R, look at the technology and the price.
The ZR-1, if it can put its power down without spin, will redefine super car...
Consindering just how mind boggling fast the Z-06 is, I expect the ZR-1 to stand tall for many more years to come. Right up there with the Ferrari F40 and McLaren F1. Its going to be a new game changer for all times.

No Veyron???