Enough is enough! Beijing Copy Cats!

[escapen]

In lew of the 2008 Beijing auto show in China, Autoblog and other publications have shown the "striking" vehicles and their similar looks to Concept of production vehicles coming out form the Euro, JDM, or NA markets.

Here are some examples of "design sharing" accoring to Chinese designers at the Beijing 08' show


HonQi V12 luxury SUV concept ( I see the Mitsu Outlander, Peugeot 407 Crossover, Porsche Cayanne, and some Rolls Royce-classy)


Guangzhou Honda "Linian" (Toyota RSC from a couple of years ago and of course a rip off of Ford Kinetic Design mainly the new Fiesta, Kuga, and even some Saturn Vue/ Antara!!!!)

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-Please post an other recent copy cats from China that scream another design language or car

[mbukukanyau]

China is just following a well trodden path. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Proton, Tata, all have gone this way.. Its an Asian way of life, copy copy copy


1990 Lexus LS 400 & a 1990 Mercedes-Benz 560-Class

[Mr. Burns]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

China is just following a well trodden path. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Proton, Tata, all have gone this way.. Its an Asian way of life, copy copy copy

I don't think anyone has done it as bad as they have. PSing an existing car with your crappy design? that's just sad.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns

I don't think anyone has done it as bad as they have. PSing an existing car with your crappy design? that's just sad.

its called continous improvement, they are improving upon Korea and Japan

[Bravada]

Oh come on! There is a difference between outright copying a complete car (see Great Wall), and getting "inspired" by what is in vogue ATM. The VE features a Hofmeister Kink, which is a typical BMW feature, the new Insignia has a "Bangle butt", the ubiquitous "Pontiac Solstice" steering wheel looks suspiciously like Mazda's...

The problem is now that those vehicles are ugly, and still hopeless underneath - but as long as they don't follow the Great Wall path, I wouldn't give them a bad rap as knock-offs, as they are not such.

[paul8488]

I agree with Bravada... these aren't outright copies likve we've seen previously. The fact that you see several cars design themes in each one tells me that thay aren't exact copies of any one car... in the past some Chinese cars appeared to be EXACTLY identical to others. They're getting better and more creative.

[genjy]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

China is just following a well trodden path. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Proton, Tata, all have gone this way.. Its an Asian way of life, copy copy copy


1990 Lexus LS 400 & a 1990 Mercedes-Benz 560-Class

Those two cars look nothing alike, not even their door handles. Sometimes I wonder if you are on drugs when you make these kinds of comparisons.

The only thing they have in common is that they are both big luxury cars.

[samkung]

Originally Posted by escapen

In lew of the 2008 Beijing auto show in China, Autoblog and other publications have shown the "striking" vehicles and their similar looks to Concept of production vehicles coming out form the Euro, JDM, or NA markets.

Here are some examples of "design sharing" accoring to Chinese designers at the Beijing 08' show


HonQi V12 luxury SUV concept ( I see the Mitsu Outlander, Peugeot 407 Crossover, Porsche Cayanne, and some Rolls Royce-classy)


Guangzhou Honda "Linian" (Toyota RSC from a couple of years ago and of course a rip off of Ford Kinetic Design mainly the new Fiesta, Kuga, and even some Saturn Vue/ Antara!!!!)

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-Please post an other recent copy cats from China that scream another design language or car

The last one is only a chip not something real

[GrandPrix08]

If you think those are bad, then check here:

http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/

Now, that is called a 'Copy', or 'Blatent knockoff' whichever you want to call it. What you posted above isn't as bad. Most if not all car makers sort of do that for the design cues, and I would say, Chinese are definately improving. Only thing they now have to perfect are the safety issues if they ever want to export their cars outside of China.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by genjy

Those two cars look nothing alike, not even their door handles. Sometimes I wonder if you are on drugs when you make these kinds of comparisons.

The only thing they have in common is that they are both big luxury cars.

Originally Posted by Bravada

Oh come on! There is a difference between outright copying a complete car (see Great Wall), and getting "inspired" by what is in vogue ATM. The VE features a Hofmeister Kink, which is a typical BMW feature, the new Insignia has a "Bangle butt", the ubiquitous "Pontiac Solstice" steering wheel looks suspiciously like Mazda's...

The problem is now that those vehicles are ugly, and still hopeless underneath - but as long as they don't follow the Great Wall path, I wouldn't give them a bad rap as knock-offs, as they are not such.

The only drug I ever touched was coffee
Look carefully at these two cars, it may be subtle, but, the first LS made you think of Benz.
Look at the rims, headlights, lower body cladding, the lower front bumper parts , wind screen area execution, hoodlines...

[mbukukanyau]

Razor



Samsung Version which came shortly after Razor was a hit


Mercedes ML



The Lexus RX that followed
, you need more???

[genjy]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Mercedes ML



The Lexus RX that followed
, you need more???

The Mercedes ML came out in 1998.

The Toyota Harrier came out in December 1997.

Do you just think and say whatever?

[KillerMRK]

They start out copying, have a styling renaissance, then fall into boring, and uninspiring designs.

[Htay7500]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

my coment was based on what asian companies do, from cars to phones, I can back up my claim..

not quite.

apple copied the LG's prada
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/340/C11730/

alpine made the 1st navigation system in '81, along with other inventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_...d_technologies


pioneer made the 1st CD player
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Corporation

[t-rex]

Asian carmakers have rarely been trendsetters in automotive design and have been pioneers in very few technical areas, other than gadgets and doo-dads.

Nearly every pioneering design over the past century has come from Europe. I can name a dozen famous European car stylists: Aldo Sessano, Giorgio Giugiaro, Battista Pinin Farina, Marcello Gandini, Nuccio Bertone, and even quite a few famous Americans: Harley Earl, Howard Darrin, Wayne Cherry, Henry Haga, Raymond Loewy, Tom Tjaarda, Larry Shinoda... yet I can't name a single Japanese or Korean car stylist.

Europeans lead on the technical front too. They've either invented, or introduced into mass production the disc brake, monocoque construction, all-steel car bodies, independent front AND rear suspension, hypoid axles, transaxles, the CV joint, OHC engines, the Diesel engine, the Rotary engine, rack-and-pinion steering...

The Japanese gave us... synthesised voice boxes and remote-control fuel flap openers.

The Koreans have given the world little more than budget prices and strange styling.

While I don't think the Japanese ripoff other's styling, there's a strong argument that they've pioneered little.