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Old 05-10-2008, 06:53 PM   #46 (permalink)
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That's why I said, "assuming there is no limit to the amount of power you can produce"... So yes... With it's stock engine, it won't be able to... With a 400hp engine it prob still wouldn't be able to... Strap on a Pratt & Witney, and yes, it'll probably succeeed in breaking 200mph.
More likely it will take off because of lack of downforce.
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Agreed. But youtube wasn't here 10 years ago. Hell, even this forum wasn't up 10 years ago. Press scene is much wider now.

Ok, so Viper is closer to GT-R on dragstip than track.

However I fail to see how Viper is "old".
4 gen was out in 2008.
600hp aluminum block with VVT tuned by McLaren and Ricardo (original casting by Lamborghini)
By Ricardo, I'm guessing you mean this guy:



I can't think of any other Ricardo in the automobile world.
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No it's not. Top speed of the Z06 is NOT artificially limited. It's drag limited. At 196mph in 5th gear, the engine is near redline. The car does not have enough power to reach the same speed in 6th.

It doesn't matter what Lingenfelter did with the C6, becuase at those speeds, it takes a LOT of hp to overcome drag. That's why I said the Aero is pretty much even since it has a top speed of 193mph with less hp than the Z06. Given enough power (assuming there is no limit to the amount of power you can produce), any car can go 200mph. If the GTR had worse Aero than the C6, then given the GT-R has less power, there would be no way in hell it would be able to achieve 193mph.
The GT-R is a turd compared to the ZR-1.
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Um ... you'd take GT3RS - caged car on half-slicks with no sound-deadening, no aircon/stereo over relatively practical GT-R? I guess I'd do the same if I was living on the track 100% of the time. But even then ... why bother with GT3RS if GT-R would be faster on track anyway?



GT-R 11.6 @ 120
Z06 11.7 @ 125

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rformance.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...tion_runs.html

MT too should hire some average joes. It's dead heat between GT-R and Z06.
The Corvette makes less than 460 RWHP and only 500 crank HP yet is as fast and in fact faster past 100 MPH than the GT-R, which has a more powerful engine (up to 550 HP crank).
Gotta tell you about how great the LS7 is.

Oh, and can you please post a decent-looking picture of the GT-R? I mean, at least just one. Do you have to hide the whole dam car in a bra just to make it look good?
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It's a bit late for spring flare-up don't you think PMC?

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The Corvette makes less than 460 RWHP and only 500 crank HP yet is as fast and in fact faster past 100 MPH than the GT-R, which has a more powerful engine (up to 550 HP crank).
Gotta tell you about how great the LS7 is
Gotta tell you that Z06 is lighter than GT-R.

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Oh, and can you please post a decent-looking picture of the GT-R? I mean, at least just one.
I posted two! Boy, am I feeling generous today ...

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Stock Nissan GT-R fares well in One Lap
Posted May 15th 2008 6:02PM by Merritt Johnson
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Slightly over shadowed by all the drama surrounding the Vanishing Point Dodge Challenger, Car and Driver competed in the 2008 One Lap of America event behind the wheel of a stock Nissan GT-R. Typically a magazine editor going for an extended joy ride in a pre-production sports car isn't expected to severely push the vehicle's limits, which is why Tony Swan cruised to a decent 11th place overall finish in the event. Not a bad placement, but also apparently not good enough for some, as interested internet anti-fanboys have taken the opportunity to criticize the car based on its performance in the vent. However, the negative commentators neglected to take into account the seriousness of the top vehicles and their veteran drivers.

After spending one-on-one quality time with the GT-R, Mr. Swan also sings a slightly different song than some. He agrees that it is blistering quick, but maybe not as easy to drive as some have lead you to believe. The wide open track at Road America let Nissan's lovechild stretch its legs, but scaling down the venue did not directly translate. The Bridgestone run flat tires and inherent low speed understeer were a handful in wet and tight corner conditions. Perhaps it might have behaved the same way at the autocross venue, but lack of cone dodging experience (or more likely the lack of cones to dodge) led to a DNF for the car in the parking lot event. The drag strip also unveiled the GT-R electrical system's lack of launch control intuitiveness, as quarter mile staging methods interfered with the system's engagement. Despite a few difficulties, in the end the car was praised for its comfort level and ample luggage capacity for the week long journey. Thanks for the tip, Rexhavoc!
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Yeah. Of course. It's the ample luggage capacity that brings the GT-R it's allure.

Why didn't I realize that at the beginning of this thread?
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