Which Cadillac Is Better Than The Hyundai Genesis?

[Sal Collaziano]

Please vote and reply with an explanation of HOW the Cadillac model you've specified is better than the Hyundai Genesis...

[emh]

I suggest adding three more options to the poll:

"All of the above"
"None of the above"
"Dang, that's a silly question" (this would be my choice)

Until you define "better" it's impossible to answer this question in any meaningful way. Plus most people haven't even seen the Genesis in real life, much less driven one.

[PAULSTS1]

Originally Posted by emh

I suggest adding three more options to the poll:

"All of the above"
"None of the above"
"Dang, that's a silly question" (this would be my choice)

Until you define "better" it's impossible to answer this question in any meaningful way. Plus most people haven't even seen the Genesis in real life, much less driven one.

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Thanks EMH:

The Hyundai Genesis is an unknown entity this poll is premature. I like your additions to the rating profile.

[E. Haskell]

All Cadillacs are better because they don't get Sal Collaziano wet like the Hyundai Genesis does.

[jry]

Why did i vote STS? Sharper lines, All Wheel Drive, Cadillac brand.

[FenwickHockey65]

I voted CTS/CTS-V, but in reality, all Cadillacs are better than whatever hyundai can come up with...

[Quickening]

I would take any Cadillac over a Hyundai.

BUT. It is sad that the Hyundai has front parking assist and other technologies that Caddies do not.

[Sal Collaziano]

Technically (not simply personal preference), what Cadillac is better than the Hyundai Genesis? If we all want to live in a dreamworld where Cadillac is still the Standard of the World and no one other than what's considered "the best" (by the mainstream) can build a better vehicle, than we're doomed with second rate Cadillacs for as long as we live...

Going by features, quality, power, etcetera - which Cadillac is better than the Hyundai Genesis?

[emh]

Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano

Technically (not simply personal preference), what Cadillac is better than the Hyundai Genesis? If we all want to live in a dreamworld where Cadillac is still the Standard of the World and no one other than what's considered "the best" (by the mainstream) can build a better vehicle, than we're doomed with second rate Cadillacs for as long as we live...

Going by features, quality, power, etcetera - which Cadillac is better than the Hyundai Genesis?

I'll take a stab -- and this is going purely by how I see things on paper. I haven't eve seen a Genesis yet.

Features: All Cadillacs except DTS and Escalade -- Telemetics, MRC, panoramic roof etc.
Quality: Unknown, but so far, Cadillac as a brand has done much better than Hyundai in short and long term studies. So I'll give the edge to Cadillac here.
Power: Genesis compared to regular Cadillacs, Cadillac if you include the Vs.

Other categories that matter (to me at least) in a luxury vehicle:
Exterior design/style: All Cadillacs except DTS
Interior design: CTS, XLR, SRX better. Maybe STS as well.
Interior materials: Don't know yet
Handling: Don't know yet
Brand image: Cadillac

As I said in another thread, the only real reason to buy a Genesis over a MB, BMW, Cadillac, Lexus etc. is price. So it will draw people who aren't luxury buyers, but just want the features at the lowest possible price. And Hyundai knows this as well -- I remember a review where a Huyndai official said they see the competition as Chrysler 300, Pontiac G8 etc.

[Astra RL]

The CTS is better on execution. But the Genesis has excellent interior room, it is equal to the s class but both the CTS and STS have low interior space for their exterior dimensions. The pontiac G8 was also in the size comparison and it had more interior room than the 7 series. Having the Cadillacs on Zeta should resolve any space issues that the Sigma platform has.
Here is the link to the article:
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...sis/index.html

[osv_alero]

Hope about all of them.

[Sal Collaziano]

Originally Posted by emh

I'll take a stab -- and this is going purely by how I see things on paper. I haven't eve seen a Genesis yet.

Features: All Cadillacs except DTS and Escalade -- Telemetics, MRC, panoramic roof etc.
Quality: Unknown, but so far, Cadillac as a brand has done much better than Hyundai in short and long term studies. So I'll give the edge to Cadillac here.
Power: Genesis compared to regular Cadillacs, Cadillac if you include the Vs.

Other categories that matter (to me at least) in a luxury vehicle:
Exterior design/style: All Cadillacs except DTS
Interior design: CTS, XLR, SRX better. Maybe STS as well.
Interior materials: Don't know yet
Handling: Don't know yet
Brand image: Cadillac

As I said in another thread, the only real reason to buy a Genesis over a MB, BMW, Cadillac, Lexus etc. is price. So it will draw people who aren't luxury buyers, but just want the features at the lowest possible price. And Hyundai knows this as well -- I remember a review where a Huyndai official said they see the competition as Chrysler 300, Pontiac G8 etc.

Thank you for a rare / reasonable response... Which Cadillac sedan do you feel compares best to the Hyundai Genesis? I know all the models offer specifics - like the V-Series offers power, for example.. But that's not a "whole package". The CTS interior design IS better - but that's about all the CTS offers over the Genesis. Remember, "looks" are subjective - and cannot be counted here. Otherwise, I agree - all Cadillacs looks nicer than the Genesis - even the DTS (I love the DTS).

The only Cadillacs that are in the same class as the Hyundai Genesis are the Cadillac STS (I suppose), the DTS (size-wise, certainly) and - well - that's about it. The CTS is just too small. Remember, the Genesis is S-Class / 7-Series sized... Even the STS in kinda too small for a good comparison - but we'll throw it in there anyway.

[Sal Collaziano]

Well, we have a review from a regular owner:

"So far I absolutely love this car. I think they got the suspension tuning just perfect for 90% of the buying public (some enthusiasts might prefer a bit firmer ride). The steering is also better than expected, but it's still more MB than BMW. Initial impressions are that it's both more refined and a bit sportier than my 2006 Lexus GS430. I will do a proper writeup/photoshoot once I get the windows tinted and apply a few coats of Klasse."

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-gen...read.php?t=154

[emh]

Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano

Thank you for a rare / reasonable response... Which Cadillac sedan do you feel compares best to the Hyundai Genesis? I know all the models offer specifics - like the V-Series offers power, for example.. But that's not a "whole package". The CTS interior design IS better - but that's about all the CTS offers over the Genesis. Remember, "looks" are subjective - and cannot be counted here. Otherwise, I agree - all Cadillacs looks nicer than the Genesis - even the DTS (I love the DTS).

The only Cadillacs that are in the same class as the Hyundai Genesis are the Cadillac STS (I suppose), the DTS (size-wise, certainly) and - well - that's about it. The CTS is just too small. Remember, the Genesis is S-Class / 7-Series sized... Even the STS in kinda too small for a good comparison - but we'll throw it in there anyway.

Comparing Genesis to a specific Cadillac gets in to the same dillema of comparing the CTS to a specific BMW or Mercedes. Should it be based on price or size? Most people here seem to prefer comparing by size, while most auto magazines seem to go by price.

If we go by size, the STS and DTS would be closest comparisons, as you said. Compared to the STS, the genesis seems to be lacking the high-end features that you can't get in a mass market car (I listed a few of these in the prior post). The Genesis does have more power than a base STS, but if you want more power, the STS has the V option. So far (only based on pictures), the Genesis interior is a let-down for me. The Infiniti inspired dash does nothing for me, and the old-fashioned digital clock just below the nav display sticks out like sore thumb. Plus there are lots of nits I could pick on the interior, but I'd rather wait until I see in person. Even the sub-par (for the class) STS interior looks much better to my eyes.

Compared to the DTS, the Genesis will likely fair well. I've never been a big fan of the DTS, and don't really have many positives to say about it.

I disagree that the interior design is the only positive for the CTS. While subjective, exterior design and brand image are probably the two most important aspects of a luxury vehicle. The only aspect (again, on paper) the Genesis has a clear edge in is power, and that's only if you exclude the CTS-V.

I'm not saying the Genesis isn't a good car. But that's just the price of edmission to the luxury club.

[Sal Collaziano]

What disturbs me most is that I can't find a car at Cadillac that's as roomy, comfortable, powerful and luxurious as the Genesis.. That car should be the DTS, hands down.. Why it's not? I have no idea.. I'm just hoping that the STS/DTS replacement AND the ultra luxury sedan are both, at the VERY least, as roomy, comfortable, powerful and luxurious as the Genesis...

Keep in mind that Hyundai is also working on a car that they say compares to the Bentley Flying Spur in size, power and features. It would really bother me if Cadillac comes out with the DTS/STS replacement or ultra luxury sedan and can't compete with this thing.