Hybrid truck too heavy for passenger tags

[asylum575]

I've been going back and forth with my loical dealer on a 2009 leftover Hybrid Sierra. I'd like to do my part in reducing our dependence on foreign oil. The saleman just mentioned that the weight of the hybrid exceeds the NYS weight limit for a passenger vehicle.

HOW DUMB IS THAT!!!!

Who the hell would buy a hybrid. Great incentive on the hybrid.

[SuperSS27]

What is the weight of the Sierra and what is the max for a passenger vehicle?

[chakis24]

its a hundred pounds too heavy. nys requires the truck have under a 5500 lb curb weight. guarantee you its because the parkways are just too old and the pavement isnt designed to carry the loads that heavy trucks bring (low clearances dont help either), hence why all commercial vehicles are prohibited from the parkways.

commercial plates arent a big deal unless you plan on using the parkways (assuming your on LI/NYC area), even then its not a big deal if you drive on them- a cop isnt gonna give you a hard time about it (if they can even see the little commercial word at the bottom of the plate- just get a frame). commercial plates are also cheaper.

[Slideways]

That would mean that some crew cab F-150s would also be out of the picture, they are heavy too.

[4x4x4doors]

In Virginia, it's determined by gross weight rather than curb weight.

[newdude]

My 2500hd is tagged passenger (5200lbs curb weight, RCLB). Insurance also told me, that if you plan on towing and or hauling very little and not often, then pass. plates would be fine.

[nota]

A passenger vehicle that weighs 5,600 lbs unladen wouldn't be my first choice for reducing dependency on foreign oil, jmo.

[asylum575]

Originally Posted by nota

A passenger vehicle that weighs 5,600 lbs unladen wouldn't be my first choice for reducing dependency on foreign oil, jmo.

Good point, but a Prius won't pull my boat or help me lug firewood around.

I'm not looking to erase my carbon footprint, just reduce it. I have a 3/4 ton with a 6.0 that gives 12MPG, so a 20MPG hybrid is a huge improvement.

Thanks

[sonjaab]

IF your in NY you should check that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I recall in NY any truck UNDER 4900 lbs. can be reg. with pass. plates.

But heres the rub..........
In NY the state suggests that you add 1000 lbs. to the mfr. weight for a PICKUP truck for stuff you MAY carry in the bed. The min. you can claim is 100 lbs.
In NY your registration/plate fees are based on weight.
I have been thru this several times when buying a new pickup. My current 2500 x-cab 4x4 weighs 53xx from the factory. I have the dealer add the 100 lb. state min. so my reg. sez it weighs 54xx lbs..
The dealer wanted to reg it as 6400 lbs.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Contact the DMV and get the real scoop then talk to the title/reg. person at the dealer and have them contact that person at the DMV so they can get a CLUE ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A 1/2 ton should be well under the 4900 lb. limit. Then add the
100 lb. min load cap. (for reg. purposes).
Check the mfrs. dry weight on the dealers bill of shipping.
Then you should be able to get pass. plates.

[Slideways]

Originally Posted by sonjaab

A 1/2 ton should be well under the 4900 lb. limit.

Not if it's a crew cab. Add in the options and it adds up pretty quickly.

[asylum575]

The NYS limit for pass tags is 5500lbs.

My complaint is in NY, if you live on Long Island, it's all parkways. Who would buy the truck. It can't do what a HD does.

I didn 't know about the 100lbs vs 1000lbs issue.

I have a email to NYS DMV on the matter. I expect to hear back in about a year

[Shotgun]

Seems easier to just move out of state! LOL!

It amazes me how so many states start creating things like this to squeeze another dollar out of the taxpayer, when in reality, their poor budgeting/spending is the reason for the shortfall.

[chakis24]

its on their websites: http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/register.htm#pickup

basically you're screwed unless you plan on installing permanent camping equipment in the bed: http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/modclass.htm

and from the gmc site: http://www.gmc.com/sierra/hybrid/specsCapabilities.jsp
2wd: 5589 lbs
4wd: 5827

hybdrids are heavy from the batteries under the backseat. comparable crew cab sierra:
2wd: 5200
4wd: 5435
http://www.gmc.com/sierra/1500/specsCapabilities.jsp

[chakis24]

Originally Posted by Shotgun

Seems easier to just move out of state! LOL!

It amazes me how so many states start creating things like this to squeeze another dollar out of the taxpayer, when in reality, their poor budgeting/spending is the reason for the shortfall.

its not that, the parkways on long island have been around since the model t. its not safe for large heavy trucks to be on those roads- especially with the way people drive. the road cant handle it long term either. and commercial plates are cheaper than regular passenger plates anyway (by about 30 bucks in this case).

Originally Posted by asylum575

The NYS limit for pass tags is 5500lbs.

My complaint is in NY, if you live on Long Island, it's all parkways. Woho would buy the truck. It can't do what a HD does.

I didn 't know about the 100lbs vs 1000lbs ussue.

I have a email to NYS DMV on the matter. I expect to hear back in about a year

like i said before, i wouldnt worry about it. the only way a cop would know it is commercial plate is if they see the little word "commercial" at the bottom of your license plate- and a cop on the side of the road isnt going to see that when you blow by at 70. you can get a nice license plate frame to cover it was well. thats the only difference between a commercial and passenger plate in nys (unlike ct where the letters are red or the word "comb" runs down the side of the plate).

i drive on the northern state and cross island all the time when i go back to my parents house and ive never had an issue in the 7 years ive been driving.

[Shotgun]

I was under the impression that the commercial tags cost a bit more. That's usually the case in most states. Since that's the case, I'd get them too, and take a chance if I needed to go on the parkways, etc.