GM Truck Rumors

[C/K Man]

Here's what I have been hearing lately:
3.9L pushrod V-6 to replace the 4.3L V-6.
Next generation Colorado/Canyon to spawn an SUV to replace the Trail Blazer/Envoy.
Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.
Tahoe/Yukon to be phased out, no word on Escalade.
GM-Navistar deal on Topkick and Kodiak will eventually result in a wider variety of trucks for GMC/Chevy commercial dealers, including a new 4500 series to be shared with International.
More hybrid/flex fuel/diesel, but you knew that.

[bouda]

I hope the colorado/canyon doesn't get any bigger. When will we see the new model?

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by C/K Man

3.9L pushrod V-6 to replace the 4.3L V-6.

I thought that enigne was dead. What else do they use it in?

Originally Posted by C/K Man

Next generation Colorado/Canyon to spawn an SUV to replace the Trail Blazer/Envoy.

That would be cool.

Originally Posted by C/K Man

Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.

I doubt it would be a whole new generation, necessitating the GMT1000 name. More like an MCE.

Originally Posted by C/K Man

Tahoe/Yukon to be phased out, no word on Escalade.

I really hope not and I doubt it.

What about a hybrid Denali XT? I still want one BAD!

[ChevyHDGert]

Originally Posted by C/K Man

Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.

GM C3XX...not GMT 1000

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[FenwickHockey65]

Tahoe/Yukon will never be phased out...no idea who started that rumor...

[NfamousZ24]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Tahoe/Yukon will never be phased out...no idea who started that rumor...

The fact that it has been said they might move them to Unit body and we already have the Lambda's that size. They will just keep the Suburban on the GMT900.

But yeah that is why it is called rumors.

[nailhead425]

Originally Posted by C/K Man

3.9L pushrod V-6 to replace the 4.3L V-6.

Certainly anything is possible, but I'm not sure there is much gain in fuel economy. Certainly not enough to offset the significantly less robust engine design.

Originally Posted by C/K Man

Next generation full size trucks coming in 2011 (GMT 1000?). Sorry, no details.

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MCE? Seems too soon for a full redesign.

[member12]

Maybe they will give it a significant sheetmetal re-do, six speed transmissions, more powerful engines, and an updated frame....much like Ford is doing to the current F150.

So that more than an MCE, but not quite a completely new truck. I'd hope they at least keep the powertrains updated.

Originally Posted by NfamousZ24

The fact that it has been said they might move them to Unit body and we already have the Lambda's that size. They will just keep the Suburban on the GMT900.

But yeah that is why it is called rumors.

GM might cut production, but the Tahoe and Suburban are here to stay.

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.

The lambdas are going to steal their sales from the soccer moms...but you still have people that want or need a real SUV, and GM will have to keep them in mind when designing new trucks.

[LAPTOP GAMER]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Tahoe/Yukon will never be phased out...no idea who started that rumor...

Thy might suffer a big sales drop, but not go out of production.

[LAPTOP GAMER]

Originally Posted by member12

Maybe they will give it a significant sheetmetal re-do, six speed transmissions, more powerful engines, and an updated frame....much like Ford is doing to the current F150.

So that more than an MCE, but not quite a completely new truck. I'd hope they at least keep the powertrains updated.



GM might cut production, but the Tahoe and Suburban are here to stay.

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.

The lambdas are going to steal their sales from the soccer moms...but you still have people that want or need a real SUV, and GM will have to keep them in mind when designing new trucks.

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.


I have a hrd time visualizing am Escalade off roading.

[DuSpinnst]

Colorado et al are GMT-700. The H4 will also be on this platform.

GMT-900 runs until 2012 (2013 is the new trucks), see UAW contract.

[member12]

Originally Posted by LAPTOP GAMER

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.


I have a hrd time visualizing am Escalade off roading.

I have a hard time visualizing a Range Rover off road, but it does happen.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by member12

I have a hard time visualizing a Range Rover off road, but it does happen.

The entire Land Rover line up was originally intended to be off-road. They were Europe's Jeep in a way. They evolved into something more luxurious. The Escalade is the exact ooposite of that.

[Canyonaro]

Some of that is interesting to say the least, some seems plain wrong but what do I know.

[titanguy]

Originally Posted by LAPTOP GAMER

The Escalade should gain some off road credentials, so it would be easier to keep it on the same chassis as the Suburban and Tahoe.


I have a hrd time visualizing am Escalade off roading.

I have a hard time visualizing a "Z-71 off road" truck off road. With less than 10 inches of ground clearance, pathetic approach and departure angles and that ridiculous in no way does it belong on a truck plastic airdam. They need to build a real truck for real truck guys. They have every configuration possible except for an off road capable model.
First they need a IFS version like the Nissan Titan for those who need versatility. 11 inches of clearance with 285's from the factory. They could even go a little larger on the tire. Better approach and departure angles.(The Titan's approach angle is TWICE what a four wheel drive GM is right now) Get rid of the air dam and put a skidplate on the front.
Then for those that are really hardcore make a Power Wagon competitor that is not quite so bulky. Maybe a half ton size with 3/4 ton running gear with the 6.2 and baby DMAX as an option. That of course would require GM to use a SFA which they obviously do not have in their lineup. The virtues of a SFA for a truck, especially a heavy duty, are well known.
This is my wish list for GM. I think there are plenty of other people out there like me who are not casual truck owners. We want a truck, not a Ridgeline, not a Denali XT, but a real, bonafide truck.