Xts

[Andonis]

XTS: This car is replacing the big guy. Awesome looking car with clean, subtle surfacing and attention to detail. It had a presence like the Audi A7 at last years auto show. The roof line was long and flowing similar to the A% sportback and BMW GT coming out. This car will be a winner.

Interiors: The new Cadillac interiors look incredible. They are finally putting the technolgy look and feel inside the car. A gloss black surface stretches from the console up into the instrument panel. Withing in that are small chrome details guiding your havd to all od the hidden touch screen buttons, ala IPhone style interface. It looks clean and sophisticated. Those Bang and Olufson inspiration boards finally paid off. The technolgy in the car is upgradeable so that you are always up to date with the newest gadget.

Overall the future is looking bright at the new GM. The company seams to be trying hard to connect with the consumer. Lets hope they can keep it up. It is easy to do a few events now, but what about a year from now and two years out. What kind of company will it be? All we can say now is keep it up and we look forward to the next creations to come out.

This was an incredible event being able to view concepts before anyone. The afternoon of the event was spent driving all the new models. I will have more on that in a bit.

More: http://www.cardesignfetish.com/2009/...uture-products

I dont know if it was posted here or not, but if it was I think it is worth reading again now that we have the official confirmation of XTS coming to Detroit.

[ne_one]

Quite complimentary.

It's interesting looking back that the Granite isn't mentioned.

This presumably is something else:

Concept: This vehicle won my best of show award. It was designed in the California studio and even the designers there had not seen it before. It shows you how fresh out some of these concepts were. The small crossover is best explained as a Scion XB that was squashed and stretched. A lot of surface detail with a masculine appearance. This would make a great compact for the GMC brand. Please build it!! AS IS!!

The author also describes the new Aveo as looking like the Mitsubishi Evolution. First time I've heard this.

[macswell51]

Gosh I can't wait for the Detroit show!

[PAULSTS1]

Stunning profile, I know it will sell and sell, probably better than any Cadillac models!

[OLDSCHOOLGMFAN]

I hope this car is a TRUE full size and a looker. Caddy needs this car badly.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by ne_one

The author also describes the new Aveo as looking like the Mitsubishi Evolution. First time I've heard this.

Every time a spy pic comes out this gets mentioned. The nise under the camo, do far, looks very much like the Evo, or the Colt, if you ask me.





As for the XTS, I hope it's a home run. Cadillac and GM really need it. Personally, if I won the lottery right now, the big status car, I'd get is the new 7-Series BMW. I'm hoping the XTS can take that spot.

[PAULSTS1]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

Every time a spy pic comes out this gets mentioned. The nise under the camo, do far, looks very much like the Evo, or the Colt, if you ask me.





As for the XTS, I hope it's a home run. Cadillac and GM really need it. Personally, if I won the lottery right now, the big status car, I'd get is the new 7-Series BMW. I'm hoping the XTS can take that spot.

From all the information supplied by GM the new XTS will replace the DTS and the STS. The car will not compete with the BMW 7 or Mercedes Benz S Class! GM has no plans to offer a niche vehicle within that category, as the very low sales volume would mean a capital loss! This is not the direction for a company trying to resurrect itself after a Bankruptcy.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

From all the information supplied by GM the new XTS will replace the DTS and the STS. The car will not compete with the BMW 7 or Mercedes Benz S Class! GM has no plans to offer a niche vehicle within that category, as the very low sales volume would mean a capital loss! This is not the direction for a company trying to resurrect itself after a Bankruptcy.

Doesn't the DTS go up against the 7-series? I mean by size, maybe not on the track. Once the cars get that big, they are more about looks and comfort, not race track prowess. I want the XTS to make me want it over the 7-Series and A8 and LS and S-Klasse. Or are you saying it's so much smaller that it's not much larger than a CTS, because that's already coming up on 5-series territory.

[JBsZ06]

I can't really tell from these photos..

Whats with the link saying the ATS is boring looking?

[PAULSTS1]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

Doesn't the DTS go up against the 7-series? I mean by size, maybe not on the track. Once the cars get that big, they are more about looks and comfort, not race track prowess. I want the XTS to make me want it over the 7-Series and A8 and LS and S-Klasse. Or are you saying it's so much smaller that it's not much larger than a CTS, because that's already coming up on 5-series territory.

Unfortunately, this is something that cannot be debated, having owned several Cadillac's and now also a CLS550 the differences can be night and day, but so was the initial asking price. The DTS is priced at $50-68K, Starting price for a 7 Series is $89K, for an S Class $92K.

You have heard it said since birth "You get what you pay for" this while not always true is very relevant in cars. The mechanicals blend differently, as those in the Cadillac generally come from lower cost brands (with the exception of the NorthStar engine).

My first week of ownership of the CLS, I took a run to a RE symposium in San Diego County, and felt the ride was really short. The features of the car, were designed for rapid, long distance use with superb execution.

If you are considering a CTS type of car; test drive it alongside a E350, and BMW 5 Series and see which vehicle meets your personal requirements.

[johnstarnes]

I can hardly wait to see the profile in hopes the XTS has the Cien/Converj side body creases I like so much, and I want to see the rear end to see how prominent the fins are, assuming they are projections of the tail lamp lenses vs. the rear quarter panel as back in the 50s. I'm also curious just much of a "fastback" look it has as that has been referenced by those who've seen it. I'd always imagined this car in black and am glad the teaser pic is of a black one. I am curious if the interior is more along the lines of the SLS, the Converj, or something altogether different. I can't think of the last time I anticipated a Cadillac so much!

[megeebee]

Off Topic Warning.


This frightens me:

ATS: This is the new 3 series competitor. I was expecting something with the character of the Cadillac Converj concept. Youthful, fresh and dynamic to take on the Germans. Instead it was stiff and boring. There was know ooohing and awwing from the crowd when it was unveiled. Maybe there is still time to go with option B.

[Andonis]

Originally Posted by megeebee

Off Topic Warning.


This frightens me:

I also didnt enjoy reading that part. I really hope they took plan B this time

[johnstarnes]

Originally Posted by megeebee

Off Topic Warning.


This frightens me:

That scared me too. From now on I want new Cadillacs to be so boldly beautiful as to make people say/think "OMFG!" when they first see one. And they damned well better have fins!

[megeebee]

Originally Posted by johnstarnes

That scared me too. From now on I want new Cadillacs to be so boldly beautiful as to make people say/think "OMFG!" when they first see one. And they damned well better have fins!

Exactly.

Everytime a Cadillac exec talks about the brand they always say something like: "Stand-out styling, blah blah blah". It worked so well with the original CTS because it is the entry level car and is (supposed to) sell in large numbers, and it did. The ATS is going for a younger, less wealthy demographic too. What will be the point in buying the Cadillac if its looks like a wannabe or just plain dull? You have to give buyers a reason to consider leaving an already established brand that they are largely happy with. It's dangerous to underestimate peer pressure, especially in the young (er).

The lesson of the 03 CTS was that if all things are more or less equal (Performance, features, quality), then it's daring styling that gets a person not heretofore interested in your product to give it a look. If the 03 CTS had looked like any other MB/BMW wannabe the model designation would have been retired by now. But as it turned out, it's Cadillacs best selling model range.

The ATS is, in my opinion, even more important to Cadillac than the XTS. The XTS will sell very well, I suspect. But it would be a successful ATS that will help secure a future for Cadillac.

I'm starting to worry.....