What Improvements Would You Make to the Future DTS Replacement?

[2002 Caddy]

Originally Posted by bhoppes

I really love my car (minus the turning radius and the freaking highway shake that it is synonomous for). I still get compliments (black on black) and I keep it looking and running like new! But you are right, I have no idea what GM was thinking when they designed the current STS the way they did!

My 2002 is Blue Onyx (AKA Blue Chip) Lots of people comment on what a gorgeous car it is. There isn't much you can do on the turning radius.. But the 65-68 mph shake is easy to fix...

Google Hunter ROAD FORCE BALANCE... An take it in... Have them give you the report that comes with this service and tell them that you want the BEST balance possible regardless if the machine passes the wheel/tire or not. Smaller shops where they will let you watch the process are best (AKA not at most dealers)... You need wheel/tire combos with numbers LESS then 10 pounds and put the best two up front. If you have a really bad rim or a tire generating more then 10pound of force you will need to replace the tire/rim. Road Force Balance will attempt to match the soft spot of a tire with the high part of the rim. It attempts to eliminate the bounciness of the tire/rim as a combo.

Get this done and the car rides like it is on glass.

GM made a big mistake mounting POS "BadYear" RSA's on these cars... Great car; POS tire... I replaced my RSA's with RFB'ed Pilot A/S and my 68 MPH shake is GONE...

I wish I was smart enough to buy that car new 1987.... It has taken a ton of work to get it to this point. It won best 80's car in a west coast car show I entered last year... Beat out a bunch of third gen Camaros and some Fox bodies too...

[MCGARRETT]

I would love to see a full on Grand Master Flash edition with wide whites, a fake convertible top. rolls royce grille, opera lamps, opera windows, triple limo tints, boomerang TV antenna on the trunk, a continental kit and an interior that reminds me on a victorian era cathouse.

and maybe some chandeliers for the exterior

[T-Type]

What would you want in the forthcoming DTS replacement?

A convertible version. Hard top convertible of course.

[NoNameDenton]

I would like to see some twin turbo diesels and gas V6's and V8's with Direct Injection, and I want to see twin turbos on the V12 made by fusing two 3.6 liter V6s together

[asrapid]

Originally Posted by NoNameDenton

I would like to see some twin turbo diesels and gas V6's and V8's with Direct Injection, and I want to see twin turbos on the V12 made by fusing two 3.6 liter V6s together

..Well I assume on European market there will be new Diesel as option. If they put gasoline V6 engine with TT ,depending on HP rating, maybe GM won't see need for v8 engine. But this would means it would need around 400 hp since this is how much new v8 from bmw with tt produce.
DI V8..maybe new gen V ohv engine brings that but that is years away, in galaxy far, far...khm
There was rumors of v12 engine but i think since GM cancel ultra v8 it cancelled V12 also.

[member12]

Wait....this new DTS isn't going to be front wheel drive, is it?

[asrapid]

Originally Posted by member12

Wait....this new DTS isn't going to be front wheel drive, is it?

According to rumors STS/DTS replacement should be on version of Zeta platform ..so RWD .

[BigAls87Z28]

Id like to see the STS stay on as the flagship sedan, and the DTS takes a more stylish coupe like approach to the market. The Deville has always been about style and flash, and I think that the DTS should turn into the DCS or Deville Coupe Sedan. It follows along a long like of Deville coupe's, only this one has 4 doors. A true CLS/CS and future Audi CoupeSedan fighter.

[NoNameDenton]

Originally Posted by asrapid

..Well I assume on European market there will be new Diesel as option. If they put gasoline V6 engine with TT ,depending on HP rating, maybe GM won't see need for v8 engine. But this would means it would need around 400 hp since this is how much new v8 from bmw with tt produce.
DI V8..maybe new gen V ohv engine brings that but that is years away, in galaxy far, far...khm
There was rumors of v12 engine but i think since GM cancel ultra v8 it cancelled V12 also.

I know, but a man can dream can't he? They could always use the BAS system to make it more economical, or use turbos as I said, I know BMW is using trubs to boost the fuel economy of their V8s

[NoNameDenton]

Originally Posted by asrapid

According to rumors STS/DTS replacement should be on version of Zeta platform ..so RWD .

With optional awd

[philr]

Originally Posted by MCGARRETT

I would love to see a full on Grand Master Flash edition with wide whites, a fake convertible top. rolls royce grille, opera lamps, opera windows, triple limo tints, boomerang TV antenna on the trunk, a continental kit and an interior that reminds me on a victorian era cathouse.

and maybe some chandeliers for the exterior

Good idea! If you add bull horns on the hood, gold plated trumpet horns on the fake convertible top, curb feelers all around and gold plated wire wheelcovers that would be the ultimate Cadillac!
And maybe in addition to the spare tire and continental kit, there could be dual sidemounts available. For those like me who live in the snow belt, having 4 spare tire locations would be convenient to store our set of winter tires while traveling south during the cold months! (snow tires will be mandatory here during the cold months starting next fall)

Seriously, I have to admit that I really like some Cadillacs. Mostly prewar models but also the 1957-58 Seville, the 1960 Fleetwood series 60, the 1967 DeVille convertible and the 1974-76 Fleetwood Talisman.

[NoNameDenton]

I have read that this will be about the size of the BMW 7 series, but the price will be around that of the 5 series (same as how the CTS is 5 series sized, but 3 series priced, and how the future smaller then CTS model will slot between the 1 and 3 series size wise, but be less expensive).

[johnstarnes]

Remembering that Cadillac at its zenith was the epitome of style that others followed, I would hope that the DTS replacement would be far less tame than the new CTS, longer and sleeker, with design cues drawn from the Cien, Imaj, and the Sixteen, sport rudimentary fins sprouting from the tail lamp lenses, and perhaps boast a powerful version of E-Flex for market leading power and mileage. Would be so cool for a stunning luxurious head-turning Cadillac to thumb its nose at the new 35 mpg CAFE standards by GREATLY exceeding them either with E-Flex or their seemingly forgotten "skateboard" technology. They need to pull off a "stealth surprise" and leap frog the competition instead of perpetually trying to play catch up.

[PAULSTS1]

The new DT7 should be a preview of what is to come; the Cadillac that will be the "Stardard of the World" the automotive heir apparent.

INTERIOR

Be completely repackaged, rear seating should have 4-5 inches more of leg room, when the front seats are fully extended. GM should introduce a new seating mechanism that offers better anchoring to control the NVH (it annoyed me on my rental DTS). Electronic memory features should be standard on DT7 models: Power Tilt and Telescoping steering wheels, all outside mirrors, w/backup tilit down feature available for right side mirror, memory seat positioning for at least 2 persons, and climate control settings, I will omit memory radio as this may conflict with the various new options that will fill the entertainment option. All glass should be double paned for quiet.

Interior Options

Designer Cloth and Leather availability with French stiching/monogramming of Cadillac or Model Design, Heated and cooled drink holders front seat, Oreck Air purification system w/ deionizer, electronic sunshades, solar power panels for fan operation when temperatures rise above 80 degrees while parked.

MECHANICAL

DI V6 base engine, Turbo Diesel V6, Northstar V8 (Extra Cost), 6 speed Auto transmission, RWD, STS sport suspension with Magnasteer, front and rear sway bars. Highly modified mounting of: Engine, suspension, floorpan, gas tanks, for quiet quality ride characteristics, the interior should be as quiet as a Bentley. Body size no more than an S Class,, for DT7 standard cabin.

Optional

In FT7 extended wheelbase, pneumatic suspension with MRC, Fully Active suspension (Extra Cost) , high speed run flat tires. Driver/computer adjustable ride: Touring, Towing, Sport. for FT7 optional V12 option at Limited Production --Premium price. LS dohc V8 Standard.

COLORS

All Cadillacs should be available in any color! List 12 Standard Colors, all others optional at extra cost.

Cadillac should offer interior trim in: Composite, Wood, Marble, Stainless, Leather, with accents of chrome. All switch gear should be of solid, quiet operation and durable materials.

Finally Cadillac must bring back the Trumpet horn, and offer a 4 note horn as an option. a power hood ornament should be available ala Rolls Royce.

The DT7 should be brought out no later than 2010 as a 2011 model.

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

Be completely repackaged, rear seating should have 4-5 inches more of leg room, when the front seats are fully extended. GM should introduce a new seating mechanism that offers better anchoring to control the NVH (it annoyed me on my rental DTS). Electronic memory features should be standard on DT7 models: Power Tilt and Telescoping steering wheels, all outside mirrors, w/backup tilit down feature available for right side mirror, memory seat positioning for at least 2 persons, and climate control settings, I will omit memory radio as this may conflict with the various new options that will fill the entertainment option. All glass should be double paned for quiet.

3 person memory at least. As well as power headrests.

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

Interior Options

Designer Cloth and Leather availability with French stiching/monogramming of Cadillac or Model Design, Heated and cooled drink holders front seat, Oreck Air purification system w/ deionizer, electronic sunshades, solar power panels for fan operation when temperatures rise above 80 degrees while parked.

Yeah, the air purification system is something Cadillac has been lacking compared to the imports.
Sunshades should at least be an option for domestic Cadillacs. I'm still miffed that SLS has them and STS does not!

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

In FT7 extended wheelbase, pneumatic suspension with MRC, Fully Active suspension (Extra Cost) , high speed run flat tires. Driver/computer adjustable ride: Touring, Towing, Sport. for FT7 optional V12 option at Limited Production --Premium price. LS dohc V8 Standard.

Yeah. What ever happened to the Bose Suspension!!??

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

All Cadillacs should be available in any color! List 12 Standard Colors, all others optional at extra cost.

THey already are.

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

Cadillac should offer interior trim in: Composite, Wood, Marble, Stainless, Leather, with accents of chrome. All switch gear should be of solid, quiet operation and durable materials.

I'll second the motion here. Whatever happened to the idea that Escalade would get a marble option?

Originally Posted by PAULSTS1

Finally Cadillac must bring back the Trumpet horn, and offer a 4 note horn as an option. a power hood ornament should be available ala Rolls Royce.

"...and every horn has to play 'La Cucaracha'..." -Homer Simpson

Power hood ornament is an interesting idea. But to have it as a simple Cadillac wreath and crest would be sorta silly. Why not bring back the classic Flying Goddess?? I have seen modern Cadillacs with the Flying Goddess.