My/Your Ideal Buick Lineup

[jmlee0695]

wildcat-
kappa roadster 2.4 4 cyl 2.0 turbo
skylark-
small deltaII based luxury car.2.0 turbo,3.0 v6
invicta-
coupe,sedan 2.3 turbo 4 cyl,3.0 v6,3.6 di v6 awd,fwd
lucerne-
3.0 turbo v6,ultra v8 awd,fwd
park avenue-
same as chinese park avenue lexus ls460 comp.
regal-
small theta based premium fwd cuv awd optional
enclave-
super model with ultra v8 all features of enclave concept

[jmlee0695]

Re-DO
Skylark-kappa-based coupe and roadstar 2.0 turbo,2.3 turbo 4 cyl 27,000-34,500 rwd
Riviera-same as concept,production designed interior and regukar doors. couoe,conv.27,000-36,000 rwd
excelle-delta II based premium small car 22,000-26,000 2.0 turbo
invicta-next lacrosse. 2.0 turbo 4 cyl (insignia),.3.0 v6,3.6 di v6 27k-37k
lucerne-next gen lucerne.3.0 turbo v6,3.6 di v6,5.3 v8 35k-42k standard leather
park avenue-chinese park avenue 45k-65k 3.6 di,6.2 v8 rwd standard leather
rendezvous-epsilon II-thetaII based small premium CUV 26k-32k 2.0 turbo (cobalt ss) 2.3 turbo,3.6 di
enclave-add super with complete enclave concept trim and features. 5.3 v8 super 33k-45k
all vehicles,except rwd,are fwd w/ optional awd
all vehicles have leather-dash standard and suede seats with leather optional

[jmlee0695]

MY IDEAL BUICK LINE-UP

Buick becomes a true Lexus comeptitor.Only real-wood trim and brushed aluminum trim is used in Buicks. All buicks have leather standard,along with leather dashs and door panels.

Skylark 23k-26k
Delta II sedan.
2.0 di 4 cyl 200hp
2.0 turbo 4 cyl 220hp
2.8 v6 240 hp
Main Competior- In its own segment

Electra 47k
E-Flex delta II sedan
1.4 turbo 4 cyl
Main Competitor- Lexus "Prius"

Riviera 32k-40k
Alpha coupe and roadster.
2.0 turbo 4 cyl 260hp
3.6 di v6 305hp
Main Competitor-Lexus SC

Regal 28.5k-34k
Insignia-rebadge Epsillon II SWB
2.0 turbo 4 cyl 220hp
3.0 di v6 280hp
3.6 di v6 305hp
Main Competior- Lexus ES Acura TL



LaCrosse 35k-40k
Epsillon II LWB sedan
3.0 di v6 285 hp
3.6 di v6 310hp
Main Competitor-Lincoln MKS

Park Avenue 44k-55k
Epsillon II LLWB sedan
3.0 di turbo v6 285
3.6 di v6 310
3.6 di turbo v6 350
Main Competitor- Lexus GS

Invicta 36k-44k
Epsillon II SWB 4 door coupe
2.0 turbo 4 cyl 230 hp
3.0 di turbo v6 285 hp
3.6 di v6 310 hp

Roadmaster 58k-70k
Zeta sedan
3.6 di v6 310 hp
3.6 di turbo v6 350
4.5 C-max (duramax for cars) diesel v8 340 hp
LS3 425hp
Main Competitor- Lexus LS

Rendezvous 30k-34k
TE CUV
2.0 turbo 4 cyl 200hp
3.0 di v6 230 hp
3.6 di v6 310 hp
Main Competitor- Lexus RX

Enclave 35k-45k
Lambda CUV
3.6 di v6 310 hp
4.5 C-Max Diesel v8 320 hp
Main Competitor- Lincoln MKT

[IAMCANADIAN]

I see Buick as being a Toyota/Lexus competitor considering Buick doesn't overly appeal to younger buyers.

Anyway here's my lineup:

LaCrosse/Allure: Epsilon II Platform FWD/AWD. 2.4L ECOTEC DI 190 HP, 6-Speed Auto, 2.4L ECOTEC mild hybrid DI w/6-Speed Auto 200 HP, 3.6L DI V6 290 HP, 6-Speed Auto.

Regal: Zeta Platform RWD 4-dr/2-dr. 3.2L DI HF V6 260 HP, 6-Speed Auto, 5.3L V8 VVT AFM 340 HP 6-Speed Auto (2-dr), 6.0L Two-Mode Hybrid V8 340 HP (4-dr). Grand National 6.2L 420 HP V8 w/AFM 6-Speed Man or 6-Speed Auto (2-dr).

Enclave: Lambda platform AWD. 3.6L DI Two-Mode Hybrid 300 HP 6-Speed Auto.

Velite: Zeta Roadster. 6.2L 405 HP w/AFM 6-Speed Auto.

[t-rex]

Rejigged mine.

I've also made managed to cut a platform out of my GM lineup too. Zeta is gone. Big cars will all be on Sigma. My "Alpha" platform is flexible, with smaller models being 3-series sized and the larger version being 5-series sized.

• Insignia: Chinese Regal, a/k/a, Opel Insignia. I'm ditching Regal moniker to draw in younger buyers. Coupé available.
• Lucerne: next-gen Ep2 LaCrosse.
• Invicta: Biggie Sigma sedan.
• Riviera: LWB/Wide Alpha; hardtop 2-/4-door "coupes"; Velite styling
• Wildcat: MWB/Wide Alpha convertible and Boat-tailled coupe; shares front metal with Riviera
• Terraza: I didn't have the U-body model, so name goes to Alpha MWB-based, Infiniti EX-ish RWD sport wagon/crossover
• Enclave: as is
• Rendezvous: redesigned on LWB Ep/Theta platform. Cheaper and more minivanish than Enclave.

[civilzues]

Originally Posted by IAMCANADIAN

I see Buick as being a Toyota/Lexus competitor considering Buick doesn't overly appeal to younger buyers.

Anyway here's my lineup:

LaCrosse/Allure: Epsilon II Platform FWD/AWD. 2.4L ECOTEC DI 190 HP, 6-Speed Auto, 2.4L ECOTEC mild hybrid DI w/6-Speed Auto 200 HP, 3.6L DI V6 290 HP, 6-Speed Auto.

Regal: Zeta Platform RWD 4-dr/2-dr. 3.2L DI HF V6 260 HP, 6-Speed Auto, 5.3L V8 VVT AFM 340 HP 6-Speed Auto (2-dr), 6.0L Two-Mode Hybrid V8 340 HP (4-dr). Grand National 6.2L 420 HP V8 w/AFM 6-Speed Man or 6-Speed Auto (2-dr).

Enclave: Lambda platform AWD. 3.6L DI Two-Mode Hybrid 300 HP 6-Speed Auto.

Velite: Zeta Roadster. 6.2L 405 HP w/AFM 6-Speed Auto.

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[IAMCANADIAN]

Originally Posted by civilzues

check my sig please!

I like the new LaCrosse that is coming out and I'm 19, however Buick's attempts so far to appeal to a younger buyer have not been overly successful. However I think with Buick's new products like the new LaCrosse will stand a better chance hopefully.

[tirediron]

Whatever it is, it must include Lesabre!

Simple as that, I dont know why GM wanted to confuse old peeps by changing it to Lucerne. You should hear how that name has been badgered over the years!

[CadiEldo67]

I think I told what my ideal lineup was previously, but I'll say it again, its been a few months.

Invicta-new lacrosse
LeSabre-built on supersized Epsilon II
Rendezvous-crossover built on Epsilon II
Enclave-as is

Riviera could also be built on Epsilon II, as the flagship Buick. It would feature Saab's X-WD system and be biased towards the rear wheels.

[TorrentRS]

I want a Wildcat.....

[member12]

My ideal Buick Lineup:















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[CadiEldo67]

Originally Posted by member12

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Wow, what a coincidence, that's exactly what my dream Saturn lineup looks like!

[jmlee0695]

i edited mine

[2b2]

been thinking of how to reference the "My/Your Ideal 'GM-I' Lineup: GM-Integrated: BPGmc ± ?" thread
so

BUICK < webpage link for other brands, colored charts!, and more info
ParkAvenue (with Roadmaster Pkg avail.)
Enclave (ditto ^ )
Invicta (possibly ditto ^ )
AND_________________________________
ELECTRA (luxury/upscale version of the Volt)
Cutlass-Insignia (Pkg. on the Cutlass**)
Plus________________________________
Riviera or LeSabre (Pkg on the Pontiac G8)
Riviera (Pkg on the Pontiac Torana ...yeah, 2 (TWO) Rivieras ...maybe)
Velite (Pkg. on the nextgen Pontiac Solstice - not nec. a 2 seater)

ALSO, since Saturn would join BPGmc as a 'Buick-Junior' ,
Safari "B" (luxury pkg on the Ion-based Cuv)
Ion "B"
Vibe "B" (Astra-based Cuv)
Astra "B"
____ "B" (Corsa-based Cuv? not sure about this one)
Corsa "B"
the "B" would resemble Bentley's


** Cutlass would be shared by Buick = top-euro-trim +1... or +2
Pontiac = "Grand Prix" Pkg. - badging optional.
and Saturn = plain "Cutlass"
(the Oldsmobile name would not be resurrected... ...yet)

[texassierradude]

There was a thread over on the truck page that speculated eliminating GMC and rebadging the line as Buick trucks. This would obviously eliminate the Acadia, and hopefully result in more sales for the Enclave. Having said that, my ideal Buick lineup:

Invicta: change the name from LaCrosse for the upcoming 2010 model. 2.0L turbo 4 banger with 215 or so HP, with an upgrade to the 3.6 DI 304 HP

Riviera: a Zeta coupe built on the Camaro line. Economies of scale should allow the Rivi to be built in smaller quanties than Camaro. 3.6 DI or LS3 422 HP without AFM. I was crucified on another thread for advocating a non-AFM engine on a Buick. I feel that no competitor to Buick (BMW, Benz, Lexus, Infiniti etc) has AFM or cylinder cutoff. It seems out of place to me in a luxury car. Coupe or convertible versions.

Electra: freshed up G-body (Lucerne) with 3.6 DI only. Keep this one around for the older crowd.

Park Avenue: Move the G8 over to Buick, add a tasteful waterfall grille. 3.6 DI or the 402 HP LS3 planned for the G8 GXP.

Enclave: as is

Buick Sierra: the current GMC Sierra line with a few powertrain changes. Ditch the 4.3 V-6 and instead offer the Atlas 4.2 I-6, as the Sierra would be more upscale than Silverado. Lose the 4.8 V-8, keep 5.3 V-8 (AFM okay on the trucks) but use 6 speed automatic only. Add 6.2 V-8 as an option. Offer Buick Sierra Sport, regular cab short box with 6.2/6 speed powertrain. That huge Tri-Shield would look awesome upfront on those trucks!

Roadmaster: The current GMC Yukon.

Rainier: an upscale version of the 2010 Chevy Equinox. 2.0 turbo I-4 or 3.6
V-6.

Right or wrong, thats it. As the title states..."my" ideal Buick lineup. I don't imagine much of this will see the light of day, but oh well.