A LaCrosse Super or GN

[shorod]

OK, I'll admit upfront, I'm not a fan of this car. To me it's just ugly.
Having said that, I guess its all we've got now. And so I was just wondering if GM ever decided to do a REAL performance version, what might it look like, not looks as much as mechanical. In AWD mode, could it handle a V-8 option? How much HP could this chassis handle, 350 maybe 400? Could it ever approach G8/GT performance numbers(C&D from June 08 issue: 0-60-5.2 seconds; 1/4 mile 13.8 seconds at 104mph)?
GM is notorious for taking a platform and as it gets a few years on it, adding a performance model to try and spice up the line. Who knows, maybe as the LaCrosse starts to see 2013-2014, it might happen. I'm not holding my breath however.

[cad1cts]

I'm not either though the thought of a modern twin turbo DI 6 cyl is appealing to me for a new LaCrosse Super.

[Danko]

It is a FOUR DOOR! What is with your generation? Four Doors are not what you should be hoping a performance vehicle is based on no matter how many metrosexuals agree with you. TWO DOORS, Please! Even Two Door Station Wagons. ...and to think a V-8 could ever be considered for this sedan is not realistic. Want a nice performance vehicle? They ARE available at your Caddy dealer. ...and GORGEOUS, too!

[Hitman1970]

Danko, blame child seats and the adventures of strapping them in. Back when domestic coupes ruled the world, the kids and beer were not strapped in which made two door vehicles much easier to live with.

[CheetahDC]

Originally Posted by Danko

It is a FOUR DOOR! What is with your generation? Four Doors are not what you should be hoping a performance vehicle is based on no matter how many metrosexuals agree with you. TWO DOORS, Please! Even Two Door Station Wagons. ...and to think a V-8 could ever be considered for this sedan is not realistic. Want a nice performance vehicle? They ARE available at your Caddy dealer. ...and GORGEOUS, too!

It's called having performance, and practicality to boot. I'm sorry you can't appreciate that.

[CRBoyd91]

Originally Posted by Danko

It is a FOUR DOOR! What is with your generation? Four Doors are not what you should be hoping a performance vehicle is based on no matter how many metrosexuals agree with you. TWO DOORS, Please! Even Two Door Station Wagons. ...and to think a V-8 could ever be considered for this sedan is not realistic. Want a nice performance vehicle? They ARE available at your Caddy dealer. ...and GORGEOUS, too!

Ok so it sounds like what you are proposing is having mediocre performing sedans just because they don't have four doors? Welcome to the '90s.

[zl-1]

A 325hp Regal (Buick-ized Opel Insignia OPC) would make a much more interesting performance offering from Buick, IMHO

[MAK]

I'm all for a Lacrosse GSX awd w/a SIDI 4.9L V8 w/about 355-365 hp. Something comparable to a Lincoln MKS ecoboost. I like v8s better than turbo'd v6s.

[philr]

Originally Posted by Danko

It is a FOUR DOOR! What is with your generation? Four Doors are not what you should be hoping a performance vehicle is based on no matter how many metrosexuals agree with you. TWO DOORS, Please! Even Two Door Station Wagons. ...and to think a V-8 could ever be considered for this sedan is not realistic. Want a nice performance vehicle? They ARE available at your Caddy dealer. ...and GORGEOUS, too!

I don't want a Cadillac, and I don't find them gorgeous at all... And 4 doors are OK for me as long as they are RWD. I don't like the LaCrosse and it's not RWD anyway. Buick needs to offer a new RWD product before doing anything else.

[EJD1984]

If they do offer the twin-turbo 2.8L engine in the new Regal - Then why can't Buick offer a performance engine/package in the new Lacrosse?!

[JBsZ06]

: 2010 Buick LaCrosse CXS
Soon, Perhaps, Lexus Will Build A Rival This Good

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

October 13, 2009 / By Arthur St. Antoine / Photography by Brian Vance, Julia LaPalme

Click to view GalleryWhile the world wasn't looking -- its attention was focused on GM black eyes like private-jet flame-outs, bankruptcy paperwork, and brand closings -- Buick quietly released a midsize sedan that stole all the spotlights in the theater.

No sense being coy about "The L Word." With its new-for-2010, Epsilon II-platform LaCrosse, Buick has clearly targeted the Lexus ES 350. Though the Buick is slightly longer, taller, and heavier than its Lexus rival, the two are close in size and closer in specification. Both are front-drive, flaunt comforts-filled cabins, and use similarly sized V-6 engines coupled to six-speed automatics (the LaCrosse also has a smaller, 3.0-liter six, and a four cylinder is reportedly in the pipeline). Only a few years ago the similarities would end there, and we'd be extolling the superiority of the "smoother, more refined, more stylish, etc." Lexus. Not anymore.

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Buick Regal GS - Road Test 25258732 .First Drive: 2010 Cadillac SRX Turbo 27011250 .Report: Pontiac G3 Off to Slow Start, Dealers Saddled with Two-Year Supply 25226638 . If style were the sole gauge, the top-model LaCrosse CXS would leave the ES 350 in the dust. While the Camry-based Lexus is simple and innocuous, the Buick is bold, even stunning from some angles (particularly from the quarter-profile, where its muscular wheelarches, clipped overhangs, and regal, 111.7-inch wheelbase are shown to best advantage). Inside, the Buick pushes harder too, even taking risks -- such as blue accent strips that glow at night like the interior of a dance club (yes, we used the term "dance club" while reviewing a Buick). A few test drivers knocked the LaCrosse cabin (styled, incidentally, in China by Shanghai GM), calling it too outre and button-filled, but others noted virtues like its superb seat stitching, plus its general modernity and spaciousness. Passengers in back, if they're just arriving from the ES 350, will immediately note the near five-inch advantage in rear legroom. "Back seat is sumptuous," writes Detroit editor Todd Lassa. "Nearly as comfortable as that of a BMW 7 Series."



Click to view GalleryWhile both Lexus and the LaCrosse CXS run with V-6 power, the Buick's 3.6-liter is a direct-injection unit that delivers more horsepower (280 hp versus 272) and, even with the additional several hundred pounds of car it's carrying around, the same 27-mpg highway rating (the Lexus leads in the city, 19 mpg versus the Buick's 17 mpg). We recorded a run to 60 mph in 6.4 seconds, which beats the last ES 350 we tested (6.5 seconds); of course, you'd have to be a particularly bold Buick man to go around looking for stoplight drags.

[jry]

A LaCrosse based GN would be great.
I do like this car and will be driving one this week.
What they need to do is figure out how to make the 6 sp. AWD work with a higher output 6. Caddy figured it out with the STS. AWD and an H/O engine would make a great GN.

[TriShield]

GM needs leave the Grand National/GNX name in the past where it belongs, there is nothing they're going to offer under Buick today that could properly carry the image and performance of the originals.

[philr]

Originally Posted by TriShield

GM needs leave the Grand National/GNX name in the past where it belongs, there is nothing they're going to offer under Buick today that could properly carry the image and performance of the originals.

That means Buick won't ever offer anything better than it did in the mid-eighties or before? (I think Buick offered much better products 15-20 years before the mid-eighties!)
It could be true if GM continues to refuse making sportier RWD Buicks.
No GM cars for me in the present...

[Olds88]

Originally Posted by TriShield

GM needs leave the Grand National/GNX name in the past where it belongs, there is nothing they're going to offer under Buick today that could properly carry the image and performance of the originals.

Short of supercharging a 572 Big block to well over 1000hp and putting under a Zeta coupes hood, no they could never do it justice. It would have to obliterate the ZR1 in a straight line and still be a comfortable Buick.

Originally Posted by philr

That means Buick won't ever offer anything better than it did in the mid-eighties or before? (I think Buick offered much better products 15-20 years before the mid-eighties!)
It could be true if GM continues to refuse making sportier RWD Buicks.
No GM cars for me in the present...

He's saying leave the the Grand National name alone, not don't make RWD Buick with sporting intentions. I agree with TriShield, don't bring back the Grand National name. Let it exist as the special Buick from a bygone era that would smoke Corvettes and Ferraris. Don't make some mediocre FWD failbox wear the name of a legendary slayer of giants. It would be akin to calling the Cobalt SS a Corvette. Good car, bad name.

Originally Posted by Danko

It is a FOUR DOOR! What is with your generation? Four Doors are not what you should be hoping a performance vehicle is based on no matter how many metrosexuals agree with you. TWO DOORS, Please! Even Two Door Station Wagons. ...and to think a V-8 could ever be considered for this sedan is not realistic. Want a nice performance vehicle? They ARE available at your Caddy dealer. ...and GORGEOUS, too!

And they don't have V8s either. They ARE available at your Dodge dealer though. As for the two door wagon, who doesn't lust after a 56 Nomad?

Originally Posted by Hitman1970

Danko, blame child seats and the adventures of strapping them in. Back when domestic coupes ruled the world, the kids and beer were not strapped in which made two door vehicles much easier to live with.

I blame the ever shrinking car. I had an 80s B-body Olds Delta-88 coupe that had more back seat room than a G8 does. For some reason modern coupes always have pitiful interior room compared to the sedan when in the past this wasn't the case. Now the best you can do is a Dodge Challenger (why in hell doesn't it have interior dimensions nearly identical to the Charger btw?).