GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward?

giagastormer · 12-24-2005, 10:12 PM

Myself and MG were having a discussion on AIM about some specific GM interiors. He was putting down the current STS interior (as we all know he LOVES to do :p ). Anyway, so I started looking up pictures of the old STS. I was really surprised.

2003 STS

2005 STS

Notice how much nicer the carpet is in the 2003 STS? Remember, we're comparing only interiors.

What do you think?

460ford · 12-24-2005, 10:14 PM

I like the old one much better!

camaro chris · 12-24-2005, 10:20 PM

i like the new one better. everythings flusher and the seats look more comfy

pagemaster · 12-24-2005, 10:27 PM

The old one is so much better. My parents have an STS, it is a 96 and it is very nice for ten years. The wood is incredible and the leather. Fit and finish at the time was very good.

**mgescuro** · 12-24-2005, 10:32 PM

I think Cadillac took a few steps back with the current STS in some areas... and took a few steps forward.

THe wood on teh center concole doesn't extend to the armrest anymore.
There is reduced wood on the doors, though there's more leather.... but the leather looks all crumpled on the door. There needs to be nice ordered pleats or something to make it more attractive.
The current steering wheel looks nicer (though it's very generic).
Everyting is more flush on the new STS and it's cleaner. But it just looks "cheaper." The old STS looks rich and luscious, though busy.
I prefer the gated shifter on the old STS. it has more style than teh hunk of chrome on the new one.

**mgescuro** · 12-24-2005, 10:35 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and move this to the Cadillac Discussion Area.

Infiniti Z350 · 12-24-2005, 10:36 PM

Old STS wheel is ugly and so is the dashboard. But I prefer electroluminescent guages on the old one, they cheaped out there on the new one. The new STS' gaps are much tighter. I'll take the new one provided it had navigation. IIRC, the new dash isn't pretty without the navigation system.

"Ice possible"? WTF?

**mgescuro** · 12-24-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiniti Z350

"Ice possible"? WTF?

I believe this is a feature in Cadillacs. When the temps hover at or around 32F (0C), the warning will pop up on the InfoScreen/NavScreen. I'm not sure if it carries over onto current Cadillacs though.

You just need to hit Clear.

Aerodynamix · 12-24-2005, 10:49 PM

Based on these pics, I like the new STS's interior more. I haven't had a chance to look at either up close in real life though.

cemaxc · 12-24-2005, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgescuro

I believe this is a feature in Cadillacs. When the temps hover at or around 32F (0C), the warning will pop up on the InfoScreen/NavScreen. I'm not sure if it carries over onto current Cadillacs though.

You just need to hit Clear.

I know my dad's Avalanche does that when the temp is about 32. On the info display in the gauges it flashes Ice and where it displays the temp in the rear view mirror it also displays ice.

Mr. Burns · 12-24-2005, 11:18 PM

2003 STS looks like it has higher quality materials, but the design is not that good.

DuSpinnst · 12-24-2005, 11:58 PM

The new STS looks much better in black. The beige is HIDEOUS.

giagastormer · 12-25-2005, 12:03 AM

Overall, I think the 2003 STS looks like a much more comfortable car. I mean, just take a look at those seats!

Plus, I've always had a thing for the Zebrano wood trim.

FoMoCo Fan · 12-25-2005, 01:10 AM

The 05 could be a lot nicer, but it looks like a lot of corners were cut. If I was dropping that much coin for a car, I'd want something a little nicer. Heck, a $30,000 Accord is in many ways nicer than the STS.

**BigAls87Z28** · 12-25-2005, 02:10 AM

I think any GM car with the DIC has the "Ice Possible" deal. My Maxx has it. Its below 38* from what I have noticed. Its cool, untill there is like 3 ft of snow, and abotu 12* out and the computer comeson "Ice Possible" its like, "no duh", but the computer doesnt know.

Anyway, No i really dont like the old STS interior. My biggest gripe about all OLD GM interiors is the bubbly-ness of everything. Everything was rounded and looked like it was pumped up before everything was settled. Steering wheel looks so ugly.
I love the STS's interior. It could use some more visual appeal, but the quality is clearly up there. It just needs a better designer, thats all. It needs to stop looking so utilitarian and straight edged. Needs a little bit more going on, but everyone I have sat in or driven has felt on par with others in its class.
Just looking at all that old switch gear....gives me the chills. I can feel the cheep plastic under my finger, clicking and clanking as you push them, watching parts of the dash pannel move and shift.

12-24-2005, 10:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
giagastormer 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 6,170	GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? Myself and MG were having a discussion on AIM about some specific GM interiors. He was putting down the current STS interior (as we all know he LOVES to do :p ). Anyway, so I started looking up pictures of the old STS. I was really surprised. 2003 STS 2005 STS Notice how much nicer the carpet is in the 2003 STS? Remember, we're comparing only interiors. What do you think? __________________ -Your Type-R has never beaten JL W7 in any contest. -Your eD is not louder than a Stroker -You dont know what 160.0dB is like -You wont bully a multi-million dollar company via Internet -No one cares who You are, how many amp's You've installed, nor what "Your Buddy" can hit "in the kick". -You are a consumer. Shut the up and gobble up the products that You think are worth Your meager funds.

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12-24-2005, 10:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
mgescuro GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 24,234	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? I think Cadillac took a few steps back with the current STS in some areas... and took a few steps forward. THe wood on teh center concole doesn't extend to the armrest anymore. There is reduced wood on the doors, though there's more leather.... but the leather looks all crumpled on the door. There needs to be nice ordered pleats or something to make it more attractive. The current steering wheel looks nicer (though it's very generic). Everyting is more flush on the new STS and it's cleaner. But it just looks "cheaper." The old STS looks rich and luscious, though busy. I prefer the gated shifter on the old STS. it has more style than teh hunk of chrome on the new one. __________________ 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero 1995 Mercedes C280 1994 Jaguar XJ6 ...when all hope is gone, you know sad songs say so much... My Vision of Cadillac My Vision of Cadillac (REDUX)

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12-24-2005, 10:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
mgescuro GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 24,234	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? I'm gonna go ahead and move this to the Cadillac Discussion Area. __________________ 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero 1995 Mercedes C280 1994 Jaguar XJ6 ...when all hope is gone, you know sad songs say so much... My Vision of Cadillac My Vision of Cadillac (REDUX)

12-24-2005, 10:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Infiniti Z350 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: America Posts: 2,256	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? Old STS wheel is ugly and so is the dashboard. But I prefer electroluminescent guages on the old one, they cheaped out there on the new one. The new STS' gaps are much tighter. I'll take the new one provided it had navigation. IIRC, the new dash isn't pretty without the navigation system. "Ice possible"? WTF? __________________ Member of the "dark side". Oh well, black is my favorite color. Sorry, I prefer McDonalds.

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Aerodynamix 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pembroke, Ontario Drives: 1998 Ford Escort SE 5-spd Sedan Posts: 1,558	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? Based on these pics, I like the new STS's interior more. I haven't had a chance to look at either up close in real life though. __________________ Wanted: ☻ Mini Cooper S, 6MT ☻ Kia Rio5 Sport, 5MT ☻ Saturn Astra XR, 3-Door 5MT Current: ☻ 1998 Ford Escort LX, "Sport" Sedan 5MT Previous: ☻ 1991 Chrysler Daytona Shelby 2.5L Turbo, 3AT ☻ 1989 Plymouth Sundance, Sedan 3AT ☻ 1979 Chevrolet Scottsdale Reg Cab, 2WD 350ci 4bbl AT

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12-25-2005, 12:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
giagastormer 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 6,170	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? Overall, I think the 2003 STS looks like a much more comfortable car. I mean, just take a look at those seats! Plus, I've always had a thing for the Zebrano wood trim. __________________ -Your Type-R has never beaten JL W7 in any contest. -Your eD is not louder than a Stroker -You dont know what 160.0dB is like -You wont bully a multi-million dollar company via Internet -No one cares who You are, how many amp's You've installed, nor what "Your Buddy" can hit "in the kick". -You are a consumer. Shut the up and gobble up the products that You think are worth Your meager funds.

12-25-2005, 01:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
FoMoCo Fan 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,985	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? The 05 could be a lot nicer, but it looks like a lot of corners were cut. If I was dropping that much coin for a car, I'd want something a little nicer. Heck, a $30,000 Accord is in many ways nicer than the STS.

12-25-2005, 02:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
BigAls87Z28 GMI Mod/Camaro Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,490	Re: GM: Not ALL interiors moving forward? I think any GM car with the DIC has the "Ice Possible" deal. My Maxx has it. Its below 38* from what I have noticed. Its cool, untill there is like 3 ft of snow, and abotu 12* out and the computer comeson "Ice Possible" its like, "no duh", but the computer doesnt know. Anyway, No i really dont like the old STS interior. My biggest gripe about all OLD GM interiors is the bubbly-ness of everything. Everything was rounded and looked like it was pumped up before everything was settled. Steering wheel looks so ugly. I love the STS's interior. It could use some more visual appeal, but the quality is clearly up there. It just needs a better designer, thats all. It needs to stop looking so utilitarian and straight edged. Needs a little bit more going on, but everyone I have sat in or driven has felt on par with others in its class. Just looking at all that old switch gear....gives me the chills. I can feel the cheep plastic under my finger, clicking and clanking as you push them, watching parts of the dash pannel move and shift. __________________ Any Inside Info? Questions or Coments? Ideas? Email me at BigAl@GMInsidenews.com 1993 Caprice 9C1 1987 Camaro Z28 1972 Camaro RS

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