Cadillac CTS-V vs BMW M5

[trev0006]

Cadillac CTS-V vs BMW M5 the M5 still has a crazy top end.

[BlackGTP]

So the speed has to be up to 150 mph or so until the BMW can overtake the Caddy? No one will ever go that speed unless on a racetrack.

[JBsZ06]

CTS V smokes the M5....and with the manual tops out at 190mph????

i'd buy the automatic as thats how I prefer my four door sports sedans..

i do prefer BMW's dual clutch technology..

Hopefully GM will eventually see fit to offer this more fuel efficient technology ..(as well as offering better performance with it)

[91 s-10baja]

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[91fairladyZ]

One word, Gearing.

[big swede]

Originally Posted by 91fairladyZ

One word, Gearing.

Torque vs HP/Gearing
The bottom line is the CTS will feel/be much faster in any realistic driving situation.

[mgescuro]

Meh.

BMW has a limiter. CTS-V does not. And as far as I know, there is only 1 sedan in the world that is faster than the CTS-V.

M5 may gain more ground next year when it gets a power bump, making it all but equal to CTS-V.

[DoomsDave]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

Meh.

BMW has a limiter. CTS-V does not. And as far as I know, there is only 1 sedan in the world that is faster than the CTS-V.

M5 may gain more ground next year when it gets a power bump, making it all but equal to CTS-V.

Except for that $25K-$30K price difference...

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by DoomsDave

Except for that $25K-$30K price difference...

The price differential between M5 and STS-V is about $3,500.
When STS-V dies, and CTS-V rightfully takes its place in the lineup as Cadillac's mid-size sedan, and gains STS-V's equipment, luxury, I would put money on the fact that CTS-V's price will all but match STS-V.

And that's the correct price for a car in this class.

[BigAls87Z28]

Price is where it needs to be, but Caddy needs to do something to earn that extra 20k.
Leather cover the leather, and then cover that in Alcantara...it needs to be that good.

[Toto]

Originally Posted by BlackGTP

So the speed has to be up to 150 mph or so until the BMW can overtake the Caddy? No one will ever go that speed unless on a racetrack.

Maybe you will be surprised, but in Germany the 1/4 mile time mean nothing. It's all about 0-100 km/h, 0-200 km/h and 0-300 km/h. Take a look at the last Sport Auto comparision:

The full results were published in the October issue of the German magazine, Sport Auto. Here they are:

* Porsche 997 Turbo mk2
* Cadillac CTS-V
* AM V12 Vantage
* Ruf Rt 12 S
* Koenigsegg CCX-R
* Gumpert Apollo
* Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV
* Porsche 997 GT3 mk2
* Wiesmann GT MF5
* Cargaphic 997 Turbo GT RSC
* TechArt GTstreet RS
* MTM Audi RS6 Avant
* Geiger-Ford GT
* Geiger-Corvette Z06

0-100 km/h (0-62 mph):
3.1 s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
3.2 s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
3.9 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
3.9 s - Koenisgegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
3.9 s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
4.0 s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
4.5 s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
4.7 s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-200 km/h (0-124 mph):
9.5 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
9.8 s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
10.3s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
10.8s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
11.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
12.8s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
14.0s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
14.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-300 km/h (0-186 mph):
24.7s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
26.7s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
29.7s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
40.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
41.9s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
50.3s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
53.7s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
69.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

Tuners

0-100 km/h:

1. 3,0 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
2. 3,6 s - Geiger-Ford GT
3. 3,6 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
4. 3.6 s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
5. 3,7 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
6. 4,3 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

0-200 km/h:

1. 9,1 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
2. 9,5 s - Geiger-Ford GT
3. 10,0 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
4. 10.6s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
5. 11,0 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
6. 12,0 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

0-300 km/h:

1. 22,8 s - Geiger-Ford GT
2. 23,8 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
3. 26,4 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
4. 27.3s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
5. 35,5 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
6. 43,2 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06


Overall 0-300-0 km/h

1. 30,3 s - Geiger-Ford GT
2. 30,8 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
3. 31,6 s - Koenigsegg CCX-R
4. 33,3 s - Gumpert Apollo Speed
5. 33,4 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
6. 34,4 s - Ruf Rt12 S
7. 36,2 s - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV
8. 43,2 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
9. 47,7 s - Wiesmann GT MF5
10. 49,0 s - Porsche 997 Turbo PDK
11. 50,7 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06
12. 57,1 s - Porsche 997 GT3 mk2
13. 61,2 s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage
14. 77,0 s - Cadillac CTS-V

The Audi MTM RS6 R is my favorite car. A roomy wagon with 730 PS. So sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEytNLhEjzg

[mbukukanyau]

this mag is such an a***. they put a guy who is dancing like a girl there, first of,
they tried to say a base 911 is faster 0-60 than a Z-06, that was the last time I listened to them.

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Price is where it needs to be, but Caddy needs to do something to earn that extra 20k.
Leather cover the leather, and then cover that in Alcantara...it needs to be that good.

naa, you need to pay for the leather in the Biemer to touch while puffing the dust from the CTS V's rear,

[atashashane]

Both are very nice cars! its just most of the people that actually spend the time to check out auto related videos, arent in the same demographic as lexus drivers. Try to look at this video and you will tell that cadillac is much better compare to bmw which is just the same.



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Cadillac CTS Coupe Video

[aldw]

At the very least, when the M5 gets redone the CTS-V needs all the goodies the LS-9 has in the ZR-1 and nothing less...

[OLDSCHOOLGMFAN]

Whatever motor they got in this car should be the top motor for all Caddys. Caddys need V8s!